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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg latina and Chris

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were back on the para cast just after

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Chris had one of his famous breakfast

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meals and after he was calling me out

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for the fact that if I want to have oats

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for cereal I shouldn't have Cheerios

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I should have steel-cut oats is that it

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well anything that's not processed I

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mean them you know you know can be GMO

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so you have to kind of be careful if

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it's General Mills and one of the big

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you know llamas chances are you're gonna

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be dealing with genetically modified

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oats okay so there's that mean I become

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genetically modified I become an et or

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something after I have a couple of bowls

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of Cheerios fighting GMOs one of the

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largest unregulated experiments in human

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health probably in history so you know

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teach their own you know if you want to

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go ahead and participate be a willing

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participant in the experiment that's

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nutritionally or you are kind of call

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there well okay so at this point between

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raisin bran and Cheerios

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I've probably becoming some kind of

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strange alien creature which some people

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who listen to the podcast will agree

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about okay couple of things here we had

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a great time with Ron Riegert last week

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but like so many people Ron has given up

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his landline and only had a mobile phone

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and I realized the audio quality wasn't

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first-rate we do the best we can we

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tried our best to improve it in the mix

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as they say in the recording business

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we're urging Ron to get himself a really

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good smart phone like Chris has an

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iPhone now he sounds much better so

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maybe we can persuade Ron to get an

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iPhone they have those free deals now

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you know you get yourself an iphone free

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with a two-year contract yeah and the

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have wired internet so he had to go with

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a huge satellite scenario come to find

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out that you know I think they only give

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you what two gigs or something to play

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with so you know he's really trying to

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keep his the internet usage down to a

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minimum and chose to go the phone route

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and unfortunately even us at the pair of

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cast with our superb technical and sound

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quality occasionally we have one of

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those shows so deal with it people you

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know what can we say we bring you the

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best guess we can every week and

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occasionally we have you know some

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issues with audio quality but hey you

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know comes with the territory

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we'll have Ron back and you know maybe

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eyes at each other okay well don't get

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me started that's that's too much that's

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way too much now we do have a new

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addition to the Parekh a staff gentleman

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by the name of Andy show pic and Andy

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has been a Salesman for many years Andy

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marketing director he also has a lot of

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fascinating friendships in the UFO field

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so we hope to hear some of his stories

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in our forums that formed out the

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podcast comm Andy show pic so that means

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if any of you are interested in

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advertising on the shows we'll send your

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info on to him and he'll tell you what's

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what that's how we stay in business

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there you go so we appreciate that it's

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really hard to find good help these days

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cast with the a premium version that

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don't tell anybody but it might be ad

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free Shh oh yes we're working on that

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now we've talked about the AB thing

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before and you know how commercial radio

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works you got to have a lot of ads you

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shows and of course the kind of ads you

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get our advertisers are looking for

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people who want to fix things you want

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to fix your taxes you want to protect

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yourself in case something happens and

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you leave us prematurely you want life

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insurance maybe in case disaster strikes

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you need something so these are the kind

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of ads that you get now when we have our

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own ads on the show we want you to

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listen to them because maybe the product

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or service appeals to you and if you buy

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ads and we get paid which is fine now

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the network of course they get paid for

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go the DVR route especially if you get

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the podcast version of the show you fast

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of course as Kris says we're working on

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something to provide an ad-free premium

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version of the show and we hope to have

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an answer soon with that and maybe even

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a reduced ad version of the show it's

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kind of complicated how it works but we

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want to make the para cast easier for

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you to enjoy so you can focus more on

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the discussions at hand okay so anyway

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because we've got lots of terrific

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guests that we are setting up for the

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parent cast over the next few weeks and

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before we even get to those guests let's

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do some self-promotion Chris you're

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going to New Jersey

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you'll November if you're going to

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Jersey going this Saturday or I'm going

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yesterday how's that hey they're already

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factored in Jersey now I'm in Jersey now

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so I'm working with my screen

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screenwriting partner we're putting the

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finishing touches on a six and a half

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year screenwriting project that's been

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visit some college buddies upstate New

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York and make a trip into Manhattan and

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then I'm speaking at the great New

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Jersey paranormal group down in the

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there November first and then it's back

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people around three states so I have a

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participate on the show he's going to

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probably be using his iPhone and Skype

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to make the connection and that actually

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gonna be pretty decent yeah I've got to

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get a get a headset so we already have a

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headset with your iPhone which is not

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that your buds in there yeah you try the

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ear buds the official Apple earbuds if

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can find something they actually do have

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mics by the way if you ever want to do

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quality Skype on your iPhone they do

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companies I have some really good mics

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so we know we will hear from Chris he'll

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be clear as a bell blue oh well I don't

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think he's gonna sing though because we

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had to pay copyright royalties to the

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publisher so he can't sing not allowed

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to do it if you do that again you have

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to send a check to the publisher yeah be

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a lord yeah you have to do that it's

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she was singing anyway Richard Dolan has

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a new book out called UFOs for the 21st

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century mind which came out earlier this

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year it's a pretty big book over 500

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of ground and he's trying to make UFO

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research relevant to the new century so

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he don't sit there saddled with the

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baggage of the last century and perhaps

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that book he covers a lot of areas and

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that you've already posted a number of

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questions of rich so he's gonna have a

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chance to deal with those questions and

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the course of the interview but we're

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going to reserve them to ourselves for

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the beginning to you know get up-to-date

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on his approach to UFOs how things have

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changed and whether there's gonna be

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another volume in his book series about

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the oppose in the national security

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state for UFOs in the national security

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state whereas volume 3 we're waiting for

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that because that's the one from 1992

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and beyond so we're gonna see what

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happens so let's get moving here Richard

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Dolan coming with Jean and Kris you're

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so here's what happened I was placing an

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order online the site went down it took

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hours before it returned but I'd already

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placed the order with another company if

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your site goes down you could lose

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business and if you have a business or

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personal site you'll want to know it's

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easy to run and it will stay online at

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iWeb your site is hosted on one of the

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most reliable networks in the world talk

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to a sales rep at iWeb comm use the

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promo code tech night-owl for a special

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discount first game attack of the rock

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codes and it was a critically acclaimed

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success and now there is the coming of

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the protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

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our distant planet are planning to

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conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at Rocko is calm

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that's rockets our Ock oids comm mics

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tenors and fremitus resources and no

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time in history have precious metals

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been more important certainly not in my

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22 years in the industry the dollar has

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lost over 90% of its value in the last

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no fiat currency has ever survived the

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government printing presses ours is not

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immune the time is now to be proactive

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1-866 to 237 extension one one six

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anything tied to the dollar is at risk

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CDs annuities 401 k's IRA stocks bonds

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you name it so decide do you want to

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leave a legacy of wealth or debt for

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your family the choice is yours

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call me a 1-866 to 237 extension one one

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don't complain about your cable bill

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going up and up and I'll do something

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about it grab a pencil and jot down this

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special number one 855 905 my TV the

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more cable TV rates go up the better

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digital satellite TV looks say goodbye

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to the Cable Guy and get more of your

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favorite channels than 100% digital

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quality for less money

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call 185 v 905 my TV sign up for

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packages starting as low as $19.99 and

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there's no equipment to buy you get free

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professional installation you control

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what you watch when you watch it record

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your favorite shows pause and rewind

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live TV even skip the commercials watch

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local channels too at just $19.99 what

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are you waiting for

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pull out your major credit or debit card

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call 185 905 my TV 180 55 905 my TV say

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goodbye to the Cable Guy cut costs and

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get more one 855 905 my TV 185 905 my TV

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you're fired

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according to the Small Business

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Administration 75% of small businesses

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plan to eliminate jobs or reduce workers

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hours to part-time you're fired

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according to Gallup the unemployment

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rate recently jumped to nearly nine

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percent and the underemployment rate hit

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a staggering seventeen point nine

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percent you're fired

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one out of three young adults and one

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out of two recent college graduates are

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underemployed hello I'm Keith Abel a

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pharmacist and a home business

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entrepreneur in 2011 I became one of

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those statistics myself instead of

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looking for another job in corporate

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America I joined doctor Joel Wallach the

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dead doctors don't lag I we're creating

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steady incomes for ourselves and would

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like to show you how to do the same if

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you want to supplement your current

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income replace your income so you don't

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have to become one of the statistics

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then give me a call toll free at eight

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comment or question about the Perico

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sent it to news at the para caste calm

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that's news at the para caste calm and

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don't forget to visit our famous para

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para caste calm with Jean and Chris we

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welcome back our old friend Richard

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Dolan who's here to talk about UFOs

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again but this time it's his latest book

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UFOs for the 21st century mind but rich

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just as we got started with the show you

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were telling us about your getup warm-up

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routine preparing for this interview and

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I've got to ask you to tell our

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listeners what you do well to prepare

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for the interview I'm not sure that's

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the case but I do fairly regular yoga

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these days for the past year and a half

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I've just gotten into it what can I tell

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you so I had a at another intense yoga

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class this morning before we started our

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thing did that that kick my butt came

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back home made a very healthy vegetable

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juice concoction as is my want took a

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shower had a cup of coffee covered

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myself and patchouli and doused myself

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in crystals and Here I am I guess you

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don't douse yourself in crystals it's

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probably the work well you know my wife

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gets mad at me she wants to douse me in

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something but I can't discuss down a

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family radio other than the Chilean

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crystals that's all true so um yeah I

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actually enjoy it I do several types of

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yoga honestly for the past year and a

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half I just feel great I think is one of

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the best decisions I've made my life so

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like a Sedona routine well they've got

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it up here too you know there's a couple

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of good yoga studios you know listen

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there's the body gets older the body

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goes into rebellion it doesn't like to

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do the things that were so easy so you

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got to push it you have to be like a

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general and just beat the hell out of it

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and make it but the thing about the yoga

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that I just like is it it just is very

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congenial to me it's a kind of mental

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discipline as well as a physical

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discipline and I just I just find that I

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take to it what I was thinking here as

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we talked about the body rebelling

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against you and of course I'm a few

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years older than Chris and

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than a few years older than you so I

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have to think that my body is fighting

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me tooth and nail right now yes

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undoubtedly unless you beat it into

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submission that's my philosophy I weigh

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5 pounds less than I did when I was 18

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good deal and that was coming off a

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really big diet where I got down to

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being slim and trim before I became a

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weight lifter so it's not so bad

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no weight management is probably the

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single most important thing we can do as

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we get older because it's just easy to

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put on the pounds and that causes so

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many other issues with the body what my

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wife does very much the same thing she

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weighs 98 pounds she stands at just shy

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of 5 feet her sister also is very slim

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and light in any case before we talk

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about slim and light stuff let's talk

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about really heavy-duty stuff here now

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of course we've have you on like every

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year or two but we have so many new

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listeners to the power cast I just want

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to ask very briefly rich about your

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goals and getting involved in UFOs and

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lets you punctuate this with the

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beginning did your interests begin with

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a sighting or some other of no no I've

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I've been now very actively engaged in

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researching UFO phenomenon for just over

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20 years or in 2014 I started at the

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very end of 93 early 94 back in those

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days I was as I've often mentioned but

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it's always good to restate this I was

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working on a PhD in diplomatic history

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national security strategy cold war

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studies at the University of Rochester

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basically my life revolved around harry

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s truman and national security policy

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circa 1950 birth of the CIA and things

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like that so in that kind of environment

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you have nothing to do with flying

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saucers I can assure you they don't

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cover that in the university setting I

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was in a bookstore on one in one day and

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saw a what is one of the famous UFO

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conspiracy books that is above top

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secret by Timothy good

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it was the subtitle of that book that

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really caught my attention it was the

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worldwide UFO cover-up and this book was

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right on a stand in a bookstore and I

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thought well that's a very kind of

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in-your-face title it's a big fat book I

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flipped through it and anyone who's read

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that book I think understands that it's

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a it's a good quality book I saw a lot

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of names and

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book that I recognized in my own

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academic study I saw departments being

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discussed that were a very big part of

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my research and I had this moment of

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what I've often called cultural

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schizophrenia that just hit me straight

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on that is the difference between what

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we all know implicitly what we are

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supposed to believe is the true is the

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official narrative of our world and in

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this case the official narrative of the

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world says there are no true UFOs but

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then there is what I was calling

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unofficial truth or unofficial reality

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in which this phenomenon may have some

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validity to it and there seem to be some

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very well plugged in intelligent people

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arguing for its case and I just thought

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well where is the truth here I'm

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studying American national security

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strategy circa 1950 if this was a

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phenomenon that mattered why is it

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absent from any of the academic books

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that have research or is this just

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nonsense so my initial feeling at the

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time was just to take a few months out

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of my life I wasn't expecting to spend

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the rest of my life on the altar of

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ufology but I thought for the next two

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or three months I'll figure this out

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very naive very arrogant everyone has

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this idea when they first go in they

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think oh yeah

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I'll get this yeah absolutely and then

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you realize you get sucked in because

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this is some heavy-duty information and

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material long story short after a few

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months I was very persuaded there was a

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reality based on what was most

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interesting to me which were the cache

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of documents revealed through the

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Freedom of Information Act particularly

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those during the late 1970s during the

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Carter years that you know individually

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none of those documents will prove that

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UFOs are extra-terrestrial they will not

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prove UFOs are alien but they do prove

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collectively something very important

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they don't suggest they don't hint they

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prove that this is a phenomenon that was

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taken very seriously by high-level

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national security personnel and that was

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enough to make me think that's

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interesting why and did they ever

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resolve this issue and you know and why

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and how would they managed the cultural

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institutions so that we don't talk about

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it the media the academic world of

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scientific all of these questions came

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tumbling out once I realized that there

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was something to this and I've never

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stopped now the question we often debate

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here is if the government has this

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guilty now

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some organization in the government of

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course major Keyhoe called up a silence

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group and Robert Salas who was on our

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show couple of weeks ago has something

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called the Cabal but regardless it's a

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group or agency within the government

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that's maintaining the secret so the

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question is here are we dealing with

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something that's done as a black project

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where there's no direct sourcing for the

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money to finance this is it a handful of

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people in the Pentagon who we're doing

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this who in the government do you think

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knows enough to have a secret to manage

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well this is a good question Gina it

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really dives into the heart of the

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matter it's also jumping about 10 paces

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ahead from where we just started so this

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is a very you know it's a deep question

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there my feeling is I come to a strong

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opinion that we have recovered

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technology through crash retrievals

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things like Roswell and elsewhere and I

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believe this not simply from the

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research of other people but from my own

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research I've at this point interviewed

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a number of individuals military family

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members who've told me their own stories

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these stories are out there and out

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there and out there stories of grandpa

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learning about you know et bodies

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stories about dad having done security

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to guard a particular piece of et

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technology I mean these have come to me

543
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as well as other researchers so I am

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very persuaded that this is an important

545
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part of our reality if that is so and we

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are not talking about simply the

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government whole hiding the knowledge of

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this reality because they don't know

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what they're dealing with

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baloney they know what they're dealing

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with because they've got they've got

552
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physical artifacts and probably bodies

553
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and in that case now we're talking about

554
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it deeply held cover-up I stopped it

555
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right here and we'll pick on the

556
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question on our next segment sure

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Richard Dolan is with us with Jean and

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his best an essay style voice Chris

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O'Brien good rich Dolan is talking about

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UFOs the issues of the national security

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state what attracted him originally to

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get involved in the field as soon as you

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do that all bets are off and we're

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talking here about crash retrievals and

666
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we know the Roswell story and I wanted

667
00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:36,630
to talk about a couple of the other

668
00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:38,550
things you have in your chapter in your

669
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new book about it but the key here is

670
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:45,450
let's just assume in general before we

671
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get to specifics that 65 years ago

672
00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:53,400
UFOs crash in one or more places we get

673
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the wreckage we take it somewhere maybe

674
00:28:01,640 --> 00:27:58,110
we find the bodies now forgetting

675
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:01,650
whether the quality control of alien

676
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spacecrafts maybe wasn't so good in

677
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those days you know maybe was version

678
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:08,970
1.0 of a new starship and so it crashed

679
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:11,820
the reasons we don't know we have all

680
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:15,840
this evidence on I somewhere what has

681
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:17,730
been done with it can we do anything

682
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:20,210
with it other than having the bodies a

683
00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:24,480
VT if we do have the hardware yeah would

684
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it be like having your iPhone and being

685
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in the 17th century trying to figure out

686
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what it does can we figure it out I

687
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:34,860
think the answer is a partial yes to

688
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that question and the reason I moved

689
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into crash retrievals in the last

690
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:42,270
segment was simply to set up the way to

691
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deal with your question gene because it

692
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really is an advanced question you

693
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really wanted to know how is this

694
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cover-up working and how can we handle

695
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you know how does how does it operate

696
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but to the question of what we're doing

697
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with these bodies and technology I think

698
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a couple of things in any logical and

699
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also in terms of leaks both of these

700
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:02,100
directions point us to the fact that the

701
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technology that was recovered was well

702
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well beyond our capability and really

703
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our initial understanding but the way

704
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that science works as I see it is the

705
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most important key to developing a new

706
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scientific idea is simply realizing that

707
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something is even possible so in other

708
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words a different type of propulsion

709
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system that doesn't rely on gasoline

710
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to give you lift for power you know

711
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clearly that would be something that

712
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:34,690
scientists in the classified world would

713
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be looking at these objects thinking

714
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:38,290
holy smokes they are using something

715
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:39,850
different what is their power source and

716
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,340
that would lead them into direction so I

717
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:44,320
think I think what's happened is that in

718
00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:47,640
terms of technology that the recovery of

719
00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:50,440
let's just say alien technology has led

720
00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:53,020
us into our own track of trying to

721
00:29:58,770 --> 00:29:55,990
replicate that not truly replicating it

722
00:30:01,770 --> 00:29:58,780
probably but spurring important ideas

723
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,780
that I've been arguing for years are

724
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:03,840
probably good moneymakers as well as

725
00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:06,160
just important scientific developments

726
00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:08,620
which remain classified I also think

727
00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:11,860
biotechnology has probably been affected

728
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:15,280
by the possession of alien bodies and

729
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:16,630
this is something that really came to

730
00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:18,760
light in a recent book by dr. Robert

731
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:20,980
wood called alien viruses which is a

732
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:22,540
book that I published from my company

733
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:24,670
Richard Owen press I hadn't really been

734
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:26,770
familiar with Bob's argument on this

735
00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:30,490
until I looked over his book but he made

736
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:33,280
it I think a reasonable case that having

737
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long term possession of ET biology and

738
00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:39,670
the fact that if you know you know

739
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:40,870
looking at the so called majestic

740
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:43,810
documents is a very tricky matter but I

741
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:45,460
happen to think he's right in that at

742
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:47,020
least many of these are legit that's my

743
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:50,530
opinion if you do that it certainly

744
00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:52,930
looks like those the biology of these

745
00:30:59,010 --> 00:30:55,950
beings is toxic or is certainly not

746
00:31:01,020 --> 00:30:59,020
congenial to humans are we gonna say

747
00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:01,030
them an ebolas based on an alien virus

748
00:31:05,790 --> 00:31:02,950
I'm just drawing that now I'm not saying

749
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:05,800
that I would certainly never say that I

750
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,770
don't know I'm not part of that team but

751
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:10,480
what would bob has suggested I think

752
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:13,240
he's argued it very forcefully is that

753
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:17,260
at least looking through the Majestic

754
00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:19,630
documents and also through published

755
00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:21,520
literature as well he put his own pieces

756
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:23,260
together and that's his conclusion I I

757
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:25,690
think that's a valid point of view at

758
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:27,700
this point in time all right a

759
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:30,400
possibility okay so we expect though

760
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:36,750
that okay so we can assume then that et

761
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:39,690
going up on another planet and another

762
00:31:47,389 --> 00:31:43,289
our system it's not unusual to expect

763
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:47,399
and/or believe that they harbor alien

764
00:31:52,419 --> 00:31:50,460
viruses just as if we go to another

765
00:31:54,619 --> 00:31:52,429
planet and we bring our own stuff there

766
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,629
frankly this is one of the big issues I

767
00:31:59,629 --> 00:31:56,399
guess to be considered with space travel

768
00:32:00,769 --> 00:31:59,639
what bugs can we pick up what bugs can

769
00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:00,779
we bring right now we don't care about

770
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:02,220
the bugs we bring because we don't

771
00:32:05,629 --> 00:32:04,110
believe that we're going anywhere that

772
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:05,639
will impact anybody where we have no

773
00:32:10,999 --> 00:32:08,519
concern but certainly you'd think that

774
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:11,009
an advanced race coming here from

775
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:13,049
another star system capable of star

776
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,710
travel wouldn't they consider that issue

777
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:18,480
the fact that they could somehow it

778
00:32:23,869 --> 00:32:22,230
infect us it's a fair question I don't

779
00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:23,879
really know how to answer a gene but

780
00:32:26,749 --> 00:32:25,019
there's a lot of things about this

781
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:26,759
phenomenon that simply don't make a lot

782
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:30,480
of sense even no matter what way you

783
00:32:32,419 --> 00:32:31,320
look at it whether their

784
00:32:33,379 --> 00:32:32,429
extraterrestrial whether they're

785
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:33,389
interdimensional whether they're

786
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:35,220
black-budget whether they're fictitious

787
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:38,159
illusory phenomenon none of those are

788
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:41,370
truly logical as far as we can see when

789
00:32:43,879 --> 00:32:42,870
you look at all of all of the things

790
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:43,889
that happen I mean if they're

791
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:46,169
extraterrestrial yeah sure why are they

792
00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:49,110
crashing so frequently it apparently why

793
00:32:53,659 --> 00:32:50,070
wouldn't they have taken precautions

794
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:53,669
like that if they're extraterrestrial

795
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:55,049
you know people like Ray Kurzweil have

796
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:56,490
said look if they're extraterrestrial in

797
00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:58,440
that advanced they wouldn't even need to

798
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:00,600
be flying around these clunky big ships

799
00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:01,950
in these big bags of water they could

800
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:04,649
just fly in nano chips the size of a

801
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:05,970
grain of rice and do everything they

802
00:33:12,259 --> 00:33:09,870
want I don't have answers to that and I

803
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:12,269
don't think anybody does but the mystery

804
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:14,340
about this phenomenon is that if you

805
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:16,370
look at it from any other hypothesis

806
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,080
none of those are entirely satisfactory

807
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,960
either it's not totally satisfactory to

808
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:23,519
look at this phenomenon as purely

809
00:33:26,899 --> 00:33:24,210
black-budget

810
00:33:28,249 --> 00:33:26,909
technology and it is not satisfactory to

811
00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:28,259
look at this phenomenon as purely

812
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:29,940
interdimensional angelic demonic

813
00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:31,980
whatever and it's not satisfactory to

814
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:34,649
look at it as completely something that

815
00:33:39,259 --> 00:33:37,500
is a product of the human mind there are

816
00:33:41,299 --> 00:33:39,269
things I just don't fit in any of those

817
00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:41,309
hypotheses so we have questions and a

818
00:33:44,869 --> 00:33:43,350
lot of not a lot of answers all right

819
00:33:47,470 --> 00:33:44,879
but we're looking at something here

820
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:47,480
which is a physical phenomenon something

821
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:51,200
crashes some kind of unknown

822
00:33:56,350 --> 00:33:54,409
aircraft crashes there are pilots aboard

823
00:34:00,129 --> 00:33:56,360
that craft those pallets may or may not

824
00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:00,139
survive the crash right we capture this

825
00:34:05,139 --> 00:34:03,350
physical craft we take it somewhere it's

826
00:34:06,909 --> 00:34:05,149
no longer theoretical we have the

827
00:34:09,369 --> 00:34:06,919
reality sitting there in some unknown

828
00:34:12,669 --> 00:34:09,379
laboratory maybe one or more samples of

829
00:34:16,329 --> 00:34:12,679
this alien technology so at this point

830
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:16,339
we can't a start speculating in the

831
00:34:21,339 --> 00:34:19,250
abstract about what it means if we have

832
00:34:24,669 --> 00:34:21,349
this physical reality we have the bodies

833
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:24,679
are they possessing of some kind of

834
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:27,169
alien virus or something that's toxic to

835
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us what about radiation from the craft

836
00:34:33,609 --> 00:34:32,270
itself there are a lot of direct

837
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:33,619
implications here

838
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:36,490
solutely so the direct question is

839
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:39,230
forgetting about everything else here's

840
00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:42,889
the reality if it's true what is it what

841
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:45,320
are we doing with it what can we do with

842
00:34:51,310 --> 00:34:47,929
it before we even worry about the secret

843
00:34:52,899 --> 00:34:51,320
we have the reality what can we do with

844
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:52,909
this craft is there any evidence

845
00:35:00,910 --> 00:34:57,050
anywhere that any alien technology is

846
00:35:03,849 --> 00:35:00,920
filtered down into our reality I think

847
00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:03,859
that that what they what is being tried

848
00:35:08,020 --> 00:35:05,150
to do with this technology a is

849
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weaponize it and be to derive any kind

850
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of commercial applications out of it

851
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:11,599
that can be profitable to those people

852
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:13,430
who are in on the secret I think those

853
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are the two things evidence you're

854
00:35:21,339 --> 00:35:18,920
talking about insiders making leaked

855
00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:21,349
statements you're talking about you know

856
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:23,180
what it looks like no one there's no

857
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official documentation there's no

858
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Freedom of Information Act document

859
00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:28,190
that's gonna make this statement it's

860
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:30,980
just none so what we have is a lot of

861
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:35,599
inference what we have is a lot of you

862
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:38,300
know a lot of stories that have come out

863
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that are consistent from a lot of

864
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different sources and from those points

865
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:44,810
of view it looks to me that weaponizing

866
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and making profit out of the technology

867
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:49,430
are two key things it makes perfect

868
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:50,810
sense to me that you'd weaponize it and

869
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:51,890
it makes perfect sense that you try to

870
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make money out of it so you wonder then

871
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do they have agreements with private

872
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industry yes okay so therefore have

873
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suddenly doesn't it become easier to

874
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keep a secret if

875
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funnel everything into private industry

876
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absolutely say you're not looking for a

877
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government official du jour to harbor

878
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the secret they're basically moving it

879
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off your private industry and a lot of

880
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the government officials once they leave

881
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government service will work for those

882
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very same companies where they brought

883
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the technology more to ask in a moment

884
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Richard Dolan speculating about ET

885
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1002
00:41:22,459 --> 00:41:19,680
so look where we go with this if our

1003
00:41:25,249 --> 00:41:22,469
government got a hold of real alien

1004
00:41:26,749 --> 00:41:25,259
technology they funnel with the private

1005
00:41:29,059 --> 00:41:26,759
industry they're busy trying to

1006
00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:29,069
weaponize it trying to profit from it

1007
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:31,369
first and foremost and as I suggested

1008
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:34,920
Richard Owen when these people do get

1009
00:41:38,809 --> 00:41:36,900
into private industry after they leave

1010
00:41:41,059 --> 00:41:38,819
government service they will work for

1011
00:41:43,729 --> 00:41:41,069
the same companies that they funneled

1012
00:41:45,489 --> 00:41:43,739
business to they're given the promise of

1013
00:41:47,779 --> 00:41:45,499
lucrative jobs that's why they do it

1014
00:41:50,509 --> 00:41:47,789
most definitely this is what it's all

1015
00:41:52,819 --> 00:41:50,519
about it's a revolving door and you know

1016
00:41:54,979 --> 00:41:52,829
the very few studies that have been done

1017
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:54,989
publicly on what we what we call special

1018
00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:57,089
access programs that is the primordial

1019
00:42:01,130 --> 00:41:59,400
black-budget programs all of them point

1020
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,140
to the conclusion that these programs

1021
00:42:04,789 --> 00:42:03,359
are dominated not by the military DoD

1022
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:04,799
personnel but rather by private

1023
00:42:08,419 --> 00:42:06,329
contractors it's Lockheed Raytheon

1024
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:08,429
Boeing General Dynamics General Electric

1025
00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:12,569
those guys they have it appears at least

1026
00:42:16,459 --> 00:42:14,009
in the opinion of those people having

1027
00:42:18,229 --> 00:42:16,469
done the analysis more power than the

1028
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:18,239
official Defense Department people and

1029
00:42:22,759 --> 00:42:20,249
that makes perfect sense you know if

1030
00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:22,769
you're a general involved in this secret

1031
00:42:26,259 --> 00:42:24,150
you're gonna make your money when you

1032
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:26,269
retire and you get hired as a senior VP

1033
00:42:31,579 --> 00:42:29,609
at one of those companies and you start

1034
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making your money make good money so

1035
00:42:36,019 --> 00:42:33,359
it's all a nice little Club

1036
00:42:37,489 --> 00:42:36,029
and in terms of secrecy it's much more

1037
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,499
effective for the secret to be

1038
00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:39,359
proprietary rather than classified

1039
00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:41,160
because it's impervious to any kind of

1040
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:43,140
government inquiry and this is how the

1041
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:45,900
government's always been not just UFO as

1042
00:42:49,309 --> 00:42:47,130
has been like this for over a hundred

1043
00:42:50,509 --> 00:42:49,319
years honestly since the bullet that

1044
00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:50,519
went through Lincoln's head the US

1045
00:42:55,009 --> 00:42:52,140
government's been dominated by private

1046
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:55,019
industry and finance and banking and all

1047
00:42:57,739 --> 00:42:56,910
through the 20th century all through the

1048
00:42:59,660 --> 00:42:57,749
Second World War

1049
00:43:01,249 --> 00:42:59,670
you look at groups like the Council on

1050
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:01,259
Foreign Relations which what is that

1051
00:43:07,309 --> 00:43:03,420
that's a group of industry and finance

1052
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:07,319
that was founded in the early late teens

1053
00:43:12,229 --> 00:43:10,470
early 20s to help guide us national

1054
00:43:14,029 --> 00:43:12,239
security policy foreign policy it's all

1055
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:14,039
about making money and they've been

1056
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:18,450
dominant in policymaking ever since and

1057
00:43:22,489 --> 00:43:20,190
there are all sorts of other groups like

1058
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:22,499
this US government is dominated by

1059
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private financial interests basically in

1060
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:27,390
our lifetimes it always has been

1061
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:30,480
so with the UFOs secret this is simply

1062
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no different it's it's business as usual

1063
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,380
this is an important secret that has to

1064
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be that has to be kept and if you don't

1065
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like it get used to it

1066
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sad but true I wonder here in passing

1067
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here whether we can have the ultimate

1068
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conspiracy theory that we were brought

1069
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into the Iraq war originally for

1070
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financial interests not because they

1071
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were really mass destruction even the

1072
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current threat from this Isis or ISIL

1073
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organization they're using the weapons

1074
00:44:01,460 --> 00:43:59,880
that we left there well don't get me

1075
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,470
started on this I mean we could do we

1076
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:02,640
could talk of this for hours because

1077
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,220
this is one of my little pet pet issues

1078
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:07,920
yes of course the both of the Gulf Wars

1079
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the one in 1990-91 that was us basically

1080
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:13,769
George Bush completely playing Saddam

1081
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like a tool like a like an instrument

1082
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and then in a second war no three you

1083
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know ditto completely having to do with

1084
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expropriating 30 trillion dollars worth

1085
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:24,809
of oil under the ground in Iraq which

1086
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:26,940
they did and now with you know when you

1087
00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:28,980
destroy a nation's infrastructure like

1088
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:30,660
the u.s. did with Iraq all during the

1089
00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:34,920
21st century it would do you depleted

1090
00:44:40,339 --> 00:44:38,190
uranium and you completely obliterate

1091
00:44:43,009 --> 00:44:40,349
any kind of chance for that to be a

1092
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:43,019
healthy society you develop as Lomb

1093
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,180
extremists and in fact what we now it's

1094
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,400
surely how sure as hell looks like you

1095
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:49,680
directly funded the group that is now

1096
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:51,960
known as Isis you know back in 2011 when

1097
00:44:55,849 --> 00:44:53,010
they wanted to take down a Bashar

1098
00:44:57,319 --> 00:44:55,859
al-assad because they want it it's all

1099
00:44:58,930 --> 00:44:57,329
about controlling natural gas in that

1100
00:45:01,220 --> 00:44:58,940
region it's all about controlling

1101
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:01,230
resources and also keeping Israel happy

1102
00:45:04,579 --> 00:45:03,180
which hates Assad so they wanted to take

1103
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:04,589
him down but what they did and is

1104
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:06,990
instead is they destroyed the Syrian

1105
00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:09,990
infrastructure and directly led to the

1106
00:45:15,319 --> 00:45:13,380
rise of Isis we created our own monsters

1107
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,329
yeah and whether the only question is

1108
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,040
whether it is by stupidity or whether by

1109
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:18,960
design and I think it's more the latter

1110
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:20,910
than the former I don't think they're

1111
00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:23,790
that stupid anyone even today with with

1112
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:25,079
the brain and their head realizes that

1113
00:45:28,010 --> 00:45:26,490
if you're going to fight Isis with boots

1114
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:28,020
on the ground you need Assad's army

1115
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:31,020
there's no other force none of course

1116
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:32,099
they don't want to use that so what are

1117
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:33,150
they gonna do you're gonna come up with

1118
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,180
this fictitious you know moderate rebels

1119
00:45:41,089 --> 00:45:38,160
there's no such group they don't exist

1120
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:41,099
so in other words that may be a

1121
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:43,619
stupidity but in reality what you're

1122
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:45,930
looking at is story after story

1123
00:45:49,819 --> 00:45:47,910
certainly Turkey which is an a donation

1124
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,829
directly abetted the rise of Isis we

1125
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,020
know this and it certainly looks like

1126
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:55,440
CIA had a hand knowingly it's a military

1127
00:46:01,010 --> 00:45:57,930
industrial profit center I mean it's

1128
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:01,020
it's a huge profit now that's not a big

1129
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:03,270
question to hear do we think that some

1130
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:05,640
of the UFO related events are also part

1131
00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:08,040
of this military-industrial thing we use

1132
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,980
UFOs to divert attention from what's

1133
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:12,960
really going on it's a smokescreen I

1134
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:15,089
think it well I've argued for several

1135
00:46:18,589 --> 00:46:16,260
years that there is this thing called a

1136
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:18,599
breakaway civilization I the more I look

1137
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,650
into it the more I believe that I'm

1138
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:22,079
right and so I think that we have

1139
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:25,440
developed we I say this loosely humanity

1140
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:27,420
has developed in black-budget world some

1141
00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:29,940
highly highly unbelievably advanced

1142
00:46:35,329 --> 00:46:32,520
technologies that are not part of the

1143
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:35,339
normal military arsenal so beyond the

1144
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:37,170
f-22 Raptor beyond any of these other

1145
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,210
things that we that we read about I

1146
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:42,240
think that there are big black Delta's

1147
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:44,130
known as a flying triangles I think that

1148
00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:45,480
they work on some kind of pinch

1149
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:48,230
principle of magnetism electromagnetism

1150
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:51,510
and so yes I mean there would be a

1151
00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:54,510
motivation for those guys to use the UFO

1152
00:46:58,410 --> 00:46:56,260
phenomenon

1153
00:47:00,960 --> 00:46:58,420
- as a smokescreen for what they're

1154
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:00,970
doing without a doubt I don't know if

1155
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:04,330
now you know 20 years ago almost in 1997

1156
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:07,570
it was a CIA NRO historian named Gerald

1157
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:09,670
K Haynes who wrote an article which got

1158
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:11,530
some play this is during the 50th

1159
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:13,090
anniversary of Roswell and he made the

1160
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:14,830
argument that you know all those UFO

1161
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:17,800
sightings of the 1950s well and we

1162
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,720
pretended there weren't any it was

1163
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,240
actually us flying the u2 and the sr-71

1164
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:25,200
and you know the the a12 oxcart rather

1165
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:29,680
it was a big load of BS but you know

1166
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:31,600
there when you look at that argument

1167
00:47:38,130 --> 00:47:35,290
specifically it's beyond weak it has no

1168
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,140
validity so there may be a few airline

1169
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:40,240
pilot sightings that that spotted

1170
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:42,730
something way above them traffic that

1171
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:44,260
they couldn't identify that was not

1172
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:46,450
officially there but but to just use

1173
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:48,730
that as a you know blanking explanation

1174
00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:50,680
is just ludicrous right which is what

1175
00:47:56,490 --> 00:47:52,780
CIA tried to do you know back in the 90s

1176
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,500
but but I think certainly in theory it

1177
00:48:00,330 --> 00:47:58,480
would it would be in their occasional

1178
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:00,340
interest to hide behind an actual UFO

1179
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:04,510
sighting I'm not really aware of of any

1180
00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:07,390
of these agencies seemingly doing that

1181
00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:09,820
though I don't know of examples in which

1182
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:11,260
they actually seem to have done that

1183
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:13,390
but it would make sense of course we can

1184
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,330
go back to world war ii am the ghost

1185
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:18,880
rockets and james carrion has this book

1186
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:21,970
alcohol the rosetta deception and we've

1187
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:23,890
had him debating with Stanton Friedman

1188
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:26,470
over the implications there but he felt

1189
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:30,130
this was just something partly to spook

1190
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:31,140
the Russians

1191
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:33,970
Navan anything else during 90 days of

1192
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:37,570
world war ii not a chance not not a

1193
00:48:44,609 --> 00:48:41,950
snowball's chance in hell he makes a

1194
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:44,619
pretty compelling argument in terms of

1195
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:47,010
some of the key players and deception

1196
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,630
programs that happened to be at the

1197
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,280
right place at the right time I mean

1198
00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:53,200
there is a little bit evidence to

1199
00:48:59,130 --> 00:48:56,260
suggest that maybe some of these events

1200
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,140
could have been manufactured so I

1201
00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:01,119
wouldn't throw that that that right all

1202
00:49:04,109 --> 00:49:02,560
right let me not say not a snowball's

1203
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:04,119
chance in hell not a snowball's gee oh

1204
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:05,260
there's some pretty interesting

1205
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:07,390
compelling documentation that does

1206
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,690
suggest that

1207
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,640
you have some very very I haven't read

1208
00:49:14,349 --> 00:49:13,040
the book I admit I'm arguing out of

1209
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:14,359
ignorance here what carrion has said

1210
00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:17,240
explicitly however I have read many US

1211
00:49:25,210 --> 00:49:19,190
State Department cables of that event

1212
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:25,220
I've read as much as I could read about

1213
00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:31,809
reports of the ghost Rockets including

1214
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:33,230
some down in the Mediterranean well you

1215
00:49:40,569 --> 00:49:36,170
have it you have a Declassified Swedish

1216
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:40,579
report from 40 plus years later in which

1217
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:42,230
and they're incredibly roundabout

1218
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:44,089
bureaucratic manner basically said that

1219
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,770
it is the conclusion of many of our

1220
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:47,599
high-level personnel if this is

1221
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,130
technology that does not originate from

1222
00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:51,200
this civilization or worse that effect

1223
00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:55,540
so that was classified for over 40 years

1224
00:50:00,370 --> 00:49:57,950
you know I don't know if carry on deals

1225
00:50:00,670 --> 00:50:00,380
with that but no I just don't I don't

1226
00:50:02,349 --> 00:50:00,680
buy it

1227
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,359
particularly when you're talking about

1228
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:04,400
the quantity and it wasn't simply Norway

1229
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,760
in Sweden no I went through out it went

1230
00:50:12,220 --> 00:50:09,920
throughout Europe yes throughout Europe

1231
00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:12,230
well getting back to this breakaway

1232
00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:14,420
civilization idea we have a question

1233
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:16,940
from Dave a Matt forum dr. Peric ascom

1234
00:50:21,130 --> 00:50:18,710
where listeners are able to ask

1235
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:21,140
questions of our guests and and he's

1236
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:23,450
wondering if the US already has a base

1237
00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:25,700
on the moon and that might be why we

1238
00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:28,700
bypassed the moon and that we're

1239
00:50:32,530 --> 00:50:30,230
probably gonna be heading directly to

1240
00:50:34,059 --> 00:50:32,540
Mars so what's your opinion on that do

1241
00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:34,069
you think we do have a presence on the

1242
00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:35,750
moon already it's fascinating to me I

1243
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:37,220
had it I let me do the brakes here

1244
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:38,569
because then we can pick up on the

1245
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:40,250
question of the breakaway civilization

1246
00:50:44,859 --> 00:50:42,710
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1247
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:44,869
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1291
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when stating a central bank issuing the

1292
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1326
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1327
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Chris in the para cast we have Richard

1328
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Dolan and we're speculating on what the

1329
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government may or may not know what

1330
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1331
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:23,080
about UFOs about a breakaway

1332
00:54:28,770 --> 00:54:26,230
civilization and is there this alternate

1333
00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:28,780
more advanced space program out there

1334
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:31,720
you know in theory we kind of let things

1335
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:34,720
die after we went to the moon we never

1336
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had that intense effort anymore is it

1337
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,720
possible that on the Qt we colonized the

1338
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:42,640
moon and more yeah I'll tell you a

1339
00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:44,170
couple of thoughts that I have on this

1340
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:46,300
one is something that I've repeated now

1341
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:48,490
a number of times in some other

1342
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:50,080
interviews it's a conversation I had

1343
00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:51,910
gosh about a decade ago with Russell

1344
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Targ who along with help huh Toth

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created the remote viewing program at

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the CIA back in the day and Russell on

1348
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:06,970
one occasion said to me this is a nearly

1349
00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:09,670
verbatim conversation he said Richard

1350
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:13,360
back in the early 1980s one of my tasks

1351
00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:16,720
was to Train remote viewers at Fort

1352
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:19,750
Meade Maryland whose job was to remote

1353
00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:21,970
view the far side of the moon it was a

1354
00:55:26,970 --> 00:55:24,430
bit of a pause and I said well why would

1355
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:26,980
they do that Russell and he he said why

1356
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:29,710
do you think another pause and I said

1357
00:55:34,890 --> 00:55:32,170
well are they looking for

1358
00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:34,900
et on the moon he said yes he actually

1359
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:37,060
didn't say maybe he'd say no he said yes

1360
00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:39,070
they were gonna look for et on the moon

1361
00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:41,020
I said well did they find et on the far

1362
00:55:45,330 --> 00:55:43,180
side of the Moon he said that wasn't

1363
00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:45,340
part of my job and he didn't tell me and

1364
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:46,780
I think he said something like I I

1365
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:48,730
wasn't informed of it I can't tell you

1366
00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:49,750
if I knew or something like that

1367
00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:51,580
and I believed him I believe that he was

1368
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:53,260
telling me the truth about this that's

1369
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:55,570
step one that means in the early 80s we

1370
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,090
had in the military reason to believe

1371
00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:00,640
that there were beings on the far side

1372
00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:01,900
of the Moon that's pretty interesting to

1373
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:04,500
me now you have a number of other

1374
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:06,690
allegations that

1375
00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:07,710
come out over the years about

1376
00:56:13,849 --> 00:56:09,990
individuals back in the 1960s and 70s

1377
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:13,859
seeing directly seeing images of

1378
00:56:18,890 --> 00:56:15,990
structures on the far side of the moon a

1379
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:18,900
woman named Donna Harris speaking to

1380
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,480
NASA personnel and astronauts who she

1381
00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:23,280
she said told her directly about such

1382
00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:25,230
structures there's a lot of these types

1383
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:26,849
of stories that have come out over the

1384
00:56:31,940 --> 00:56:29,460
years quite a few you've got the Apollo

1385
00:56:33,710 --> 00:56:31,950
stories I happen to credit the one that

1386
00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:33,720
was told by Timothy good relating to a

1387
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:35,940
very close friend of his who said she

1388
00:56:39,950 --> 00:56:37,530
overheard a conversation with Neil

1389
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:39,960
Armstrong at a party where Armstrong was

1390
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:41,940
asked by this PhD what really happened

1391
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:42,930
on the moon you know the kind of

1392
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:44,790
question we would all like to ask and

1393
00:56:49,339 --> 00:56:47,339
Armstrong supposedly said according this

1394
00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:49,349
woman who ever heard yes there are

1395
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:51,750
structures their menacing craft you know

1396
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:53,670
things of this particular sort you have

1397
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:55,650
Buzz Aldrin making a couple of really

1398
00:56:59,780 --> 00:56:57,450
loose cannon tape statements over the

1399
00:57:01,339 --> 00:56:59,790
course of his career on one occasion

1400
00:57:03,140 --> 00:57:01,349
saying that we were followed on the way

1401
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:03,150
to the moon then backtracking saying oh

1402
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,369
no was something we ejected didn't sound

1403
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:07,440
very convincing and he's made other

1404
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,240
statements I think when you look at this

1405
00:57:13,819 --> 00:57:11,760
entire scenario that there's a very

1406
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:13,829
strong case that we've been that there

1407
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:14,970
was something on the back side of the

1408
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:17,010
moon and furthermore I'm not right now

1409
00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:20,010
currently working a source retired NASA

1410
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:22,680
a high-level prominent man who basically

1411
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:25,170
made basically explicitly made the

1412
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,030
statement at every single NASA mission

1413
00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:29,280
that was from Mercury right up till

1414
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,109
today has been monitored by what we

1415
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:32,880
would call UFOs so that there's

1416
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:34,950
something important going on here is an

1417
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:37,410
enormous part of our reality there's

1418
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:39,089
basically and hidden from us and if

1419
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:41,010
you've got breakaway civilization

1420
00:57:44,660 --> 00:57:42,690
technology which I can explain what I

1421
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:44,670
mean by that but I think that that means

1422
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:46,290
we have the ability to go offworld I

1423
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:47,520
think that means that we have

1424
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:50,400
capabilities covertly that are vastly

1425
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,530
beyond what our official civilization

1426
00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:54,960
has and this is not illogical frankly

1427
00:57:59,050 --> 00:57:56,940
not illogical at all all right let's

1428
00:58:02,780 --> 00:57:59,060
look at this and the implications so

1429
00:58:05,930 --> 00:58:02,790
here would it be better from a public

1430
00:58:07,940 --> 00:58:05,940
relations standpoint to show our space

1431
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:07,950
program to be more developed than it is

1432
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:10,290
not if the implications are so

1433
00:58:13,130 --> 00:58:12,089
revolutionary for your society that it

1434
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:13,140
turns the whole structure of power

1435
00:58:19,309 --> 00:58:17,040
upside down because if you if you tell

1436
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:19,319
the world oh yeah we've got these black

1437
00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:20,250
triangles I can go

1438
00:58:24,380 --> 00:58:22,590
planet but you can't be a little bit

1439
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:24,390
pregnant and you can't a little bit

1440
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:26,250
disclose the reality of this you just

1441
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:28,410
can't do it if you're gonna talk about

1442
00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:29,850
it you have to go all the way in and

1443
00:58:34,130 --> 00:58:32,040
that's that's just too dramatic this is

1444
00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:34,140
why the secret started when it did back

1445
00:58:38,180 --> 00:58:35,790
in the 1940s when this when the

1446
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:38,190
implications became obvious because a

1447
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,530
ten-year-old child seeing a black

1448
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:42,960
triangle or any object that instantly

1449
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:44,880
accelerates is going to realize that

1450
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:46,770
they're not using gasoline to move

1451
00:58:51,590 --> 00:58:49,050
around they can understand this in other

1452
00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:51,600
words implicit within the answer to the

1453
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:54,120
UFO propulsion mystery is a post

1454
00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:57,000
petroleum future and that's a could be a

1455
00:58:59,780 --> 00:58:58,440
great thing for Humanity but that's

1456
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:59,790
really not a good thing

1457
00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:01,520
for those people who are running the

1458
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:04,500
global structure of power right now in

1459
00:59:09,020 --> 00:59:06,570
our pockets for three plus dollars a

1460
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,030
gallon three yeah that's right and and

1461
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:11,280
an entire financial global

1462
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:13,770
infrastructure that is reliant on the

1463
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:15,570
petro dollar by the way which is why the

1464
00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:17,700
u.s. is at war with Russia right now

1465
00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:21,540
so that whole petroleum paradigm from

1466
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:23,790
their point of view that there's no way

1467
00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:25,110
they'd ever want to take that down you

1468
00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:26,670
know back in nineteen fifty by the way

1469
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:29,070
to them it seemed like there was enough

1470
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:30,240
oil to last forever

1471
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:33,510
anyway now by 1950 levels of consumption

1472
00:59:37,550 --> 00:59:35,330
actually would have been no problem

1473
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:37,560
we're at a point now we're sucking it

1474
00:59:42,410 --> 00:59:40,020
down and in a way that's vastly vastly

1475
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:42,420
more intense and what happened that was

1476
00:59:46,850 --> 00:59:45,330
happening 60 years ago so if you if you

1477
00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:46,860
tell the world that you've got this

1478
00:59:50,660 --> 00:59:49,140
advanced space program there's going to

1479
00:59:52,850 --> 00:59:50,670
be a lot of questions and think about

1480
00:59:54,350 --> 00:59:52,860
this you know if a guy has an affair and

1481
00:59:56,090 --> 00:59:54,360
his wife that lasts for a couple of

1482
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:56,100
weeks that's one thing if he has an

1483
00:59:59,410 --> 00:59:57,690
affair and his wife that lasts for 20

1484
01:00:02,060 --> 00:59:59,420
years and then he's got to explain that

1485
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:02,070
that's a little more difficult if you've

1486
01:00:06,530 --> 01:00:04,050
got this secret of this advanced

1487
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:06,540
technology all these years with

1488
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:08,130
classified patents that have held the

1489
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:09,870
future of the rest of humanity hostage

1490
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:12,330
which is the case and then suddenly say

1491
01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:14,610
oh yeah yeah we've got this offworld

1492
01:00:19,730 --> 01:00:16,980
capability do you not think that there

1493
01:00:22,430 --> 01:00:19,740
gonna be a lot of angry people on this

1494
01:00:24,350 --> 01:00:22,440
planet a lot of angry people they're not

1495
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:24,360
necessarily gonna all roll over with a

1496
01:00:28,670 --> 01:00:26,490
doglike obedience to Authority and say

1497
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:28,680
oh yeah well whatever you say boss there

1498
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:31,410
will be people who will who will want to

1499
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:33,270
have lawsuits there will be people who

1500
01:00:36,610 --> 01:00:34,430
will want to do worse

1501
01:00:38,830 --> 01:00:36,620
over having been lied to for years and

1502
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:38,840
years and having again having their

1503
01:00:42,730 --> 01:00:40,250
future held

1504
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:42,740
basically in neutral while the rest of

1505
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:45,530
this secret world goes far ahead all

1506
01:00:49,210 --> 01:00:47,630
right you know just looking at this is

1507
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:49,220
incredibly fascinating and you're

1508
01:00:53,530 --> 01:00:51,410
telling me here that the evidence you

1509
01:00:54,970 --> 01:00:53,540
see is from what a whistleblower here

1510
01:00:58,510 --> 01:00:54,980
and there who comes to you with this

1511
01:01:00,430 --> 01:00:58,520
information these information well it's

1512
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:00,440
information that I I'll get through

1513
01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:01,910
other researchers but information that

1514
01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:03,350
does come to me through people that

1515
01:01:07,450 --> 01:01:05,780
whose acquaintance I make who I

1516
01:01:09,490 --> 01:01:07,460
interview and tell me about their

1517
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:09,500
families and I've had quite a few of

1518
01:01:15,070 --> 01:01:12,290
these people why are you so lucky to get

1519
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:15,080
these people they know who I am I get

1520
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:16,520
I'm very public

1521
01:01:20,530 --> 01:01:18,890
I'm very sociable and not like a lot of

1522
01:01:22,090 --> 01:01:20,540
other researchers I really don't just

1523
01:01:24,130 --> 01:01:22,100
keep to myself I'm out there I'm

1524
01:01:27,250 --> 01:01:24,140
constantly out there meeting people I do

1525
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:27,260
conferences fifteen twenty a year I have

1526
01:01:30,670 --> 01:01:28,610
a Facebook page has got I've got

1527
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:30,680
thousands of people who follow me and

1528
01:01:36,790 --> 01:01:33,170
I'm active and I talk to them I mean I'm

1529
01:01:39,850 --> 01:01:36,800
pressing myself into into a great number

1530
01:01:42,580 --> 01:01:39,860
of people all the time and and I'm

1531
01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:42,590
visible I'm well-known as a researcher

1532
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:45,140
in this field so people will eventually

1533
01:01:50,380 --> 01:01:48,530
speak to me you know when I get a story

1534
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:50,390
from someone I always have to ask myself

1535
01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:51,950
where they are they playing a game here

1536
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:54,680
with me but I I feel like I don't know

1537
01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:56,510
many of these people fairly well and I

1538
01:02:00,580 --> 01:01:57,710
don't think that's the case in most of

1539
01:02:02,830 --> 01:02:00,590
these instances you don't think there

1540
01:02:04,890 --> 01:02:02,840
are people out there who don't want you

1541
01:02:08,530 --> 01:02:04,900
to know the secret whatever it might be

1542
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:08,540
who are not trying to use this

1543
01:02:13,090 --> 01:02:10,790
information to fool send you stuff that

1544
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:13,100
Maddie is weak I believe I've had that

1545
01:02:17,950 --> 01:02:16,400
happen to me for sure for sure but I

1546
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:17,960
would say the vast majority of

1547
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:19,610
individuals I've communicated with or

1548
01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:22,130
not or not like that know I think most

1549
01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:23,720
of them they have very limited

1550
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:26,180
information and we got little bits and

1551
01:02:32,110 --> 01:02:27,920
pieces here and there and I just simply

1552
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:32,120
do my best to put it together of the

1553
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:35,450
gentleman that you've interviewed that

1554
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:36,950
was used the footage of the interview

1555
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:38,510
was used at the Citizen hearing on

1556
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:41,090
disclosure I think he's been named now

1557
01:02:46,570 --> 01:02:44,480
anonymous as kind of as his yeah his tag

1558
01:02:48,049 --> 01:02:46,580
can you tell us just a quick thumbnail

1559
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:48,059
sketch of how you met him

1560
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:49,680
he would be happy to somebody that

1561
01:02:54,049 --> 01:02:52,079
you're talking about we're running out

1562
01:02:55,579 --> 01:02:54,059
the clock here why'd you start for about

1563
01:02:59,299 --> 01:02:55,589
30 seconds and we'll pick it up in our

1564
01:03:02,329 --> 01:02:59,309
next segment yeah for sure

1565
01:03:04,429 --> 01:03:02,339
I'm glad you mentioned that Chris I I

1566
01:03:06,529 --> 01:03:04,439
like that man I'm still troubled by the

1567
01:03:08,689 --> 01:03:06,539
interview the whole way it came about

1568
01:03:10,099 --> 01:03:08,699
was not there any initiative of my own I

1569
01:03:13,309 --> 01:03:10,109
was actually asked explicitly

1570
01:03:14,569 --> 01:03:13,319
by my friend Stephen Bassett who knew

1571
01:03:16,759 --> 01:03:14,579
about this

1572
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:16,769
this man had also been cultivated by

1573
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:18,809
another UFO researcher named Ron garner

1574
01:03:24,289 --> 01:03:22,319
for many years he was I was told that he

1575
01:03:25,489 --> 01:03:24,299
was not going to live very long and he

1576
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,499
had potentially explosive information

1577
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,599
and I was asked whether I would go up to

1578
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:28,559
interview this man

1579
01:03:34,729 --> 01:03:32,130
and so I with a lot of hesitation I

1580
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:34,739
eventually agreed to do it let's talk

1581
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:37,140
about that interview that meeting in a

1582
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:39,209
moment with Richard Dolan and gene and

1583
01:03:48,289 --> 01:03:46,799
Chris you're in the para cast first game

1584
01:03:50,329 --> 01:03:48,299
attack of the Rockets and it was a

1585
01:03:52,279 --> 01:03:50,339
critically acclaimed success and now

1586
01:03:54,380 --> 01:03:52,289
there's the coming of the protectors a

1587
01:03:56,689 --> 01:03:54,390
former military intelligence man is

1588
01:03:58,459 --> 01:03:56,699
contacted by a space woman in a dream a

1589
01:04:00,919 --> 01:03:58,469
dream that turns out to be a nightmare

1590
01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:00,929
because evil forces on our distant

1591
01:04:05,299 --> 01:04:02,640
planet are planning to conquer the earth

1592
01:04:07,759 --> 01:04:05,309
this is gripping science fiction of the

1593
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:07,769
classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

1594
01:04:12,589 --> 01:04:09,839
and the coming of the protectors find

1595
01:04:16,849 --> 01:04:12,599
out more at Rocko it's calm that's Rocko

1596
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telling us about visiting someone with a

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to offer yes so this was a gentleman who

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you know I was I was told was very very

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ill would I meet with him to do an

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interview and I I eventually agreed to

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01:08:34,930 --> 01:08:33,650
do it prior to meeting this man he and I

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01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:34,940
will just say he lives in northern

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01:08:39,370 --> 01:08:37,790
Minnesota of really remote I was given

1686
01:08:41,379 --> 01:08:39,380
some a lot of information about him

1687
01:08:45,490 --> 01:08:41,389
including his military papers is dd-214

1688
01:08:47,769 --> 01:08:45,500
and a number of other things I met his

1689
01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:47,779
son-in-law while I was there who really

1690
01:08:51,419 --> 01:08:49,190
is a good guy I think a stand-up guy

1691
01:08:54,099 --> 01:08:51,429
knows his father-in-law story very well

1692
01:08:56,559 --> 01:08:54,109
so I sat down to interview this man in a

1693
01:09:00,249 --> 01:08:56,569
tiny little motel room in the middle of

1694
01:09:03,579 --> 01:09:00,259
nowhere and it's on youtube I when I did

1695
01:09:05,530 --> 01:09:03,589
this interview I can just say I had no

1696
01:09:08,530 --> 01:09:05,540
idea that it was going to be put out

1697
01:09:11,140 --> 01:09:08,540
there so quickly on YouTube for me was

1698
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:11,150
an exploratory type of interview it's

1699
01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:12,650
the problem that I have with this man

1700
01:09:16,209 --> 01:09:14,270
and I'll describe the story in a minute

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01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:16,219
is simply that to this day I have not

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01:09:19,539 --> 01:09:18,049
been able to vet one way the other what

1703
01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:19,549
he's with what he says is true or not

1704
01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:21,350
I've had people write to me saying me

1705
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:22,969
that he's full of it other people who

1706
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:24,799
say no no I think he may be legit for a

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01:09:27,740 --> 01:09:27,049
couple of reasons a lot of people are

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01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:27,750
very

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:30,390
giggle of him fundamentally the

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01:09:34,670 --> 01:09:32,850
interview was him talking about while in

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01:09:37,210 --> 01:09:34,680
the in the army signal intelligence in

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01:09:40,579 --> 01:09:37,220
the late 50s he was recruited by a

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01:09:42,710 --> 01:09:40,589
gentleman who was CIA so he did double

1714
01:09:46,190 --> 01:09:42,720
duty working for the CIA in the late 50s

1715
01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:46,200
accepting UFO reports from Europe that

1716
01:09:51,710 --> 01:09:49,560
was his initial job talk about a little

1717
01:09:56,290 --> 01:09:51,720
bit of that I'm not sure if this is on

1718
01:09:59,810 --> 01:09:56,300
the YouTube video I it may not be but he

1719
01:10:02,450 --> 01:09:59,820
remembered seeing he said to me of a

1720
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:02,460
picture of a landed craft in Italy and a

1721
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:04,650
being near it that was definitely an

1722
01:10:08,690 --> 01:10:07,170
alien being he said anyway the real

1723
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:08,700
explosive thing of what he said to me

1724
01:10:12,710 --> 01:10:10,490
was that at one point his boss was

1725
01:10:14,570 --> 01:10:12,720
brought in to Washington to meet

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01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:14,580
President Eisenhower and he accompanied

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:16,400
his boss he was a young man at the time

1728
01:10:21,620 --> 01:10:19,530
and supposedly Eisenhower said to them I

1729
01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:21,630
have tried and tried and tried and tried

1730
01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:23,070
to get information out of what's going

1731
01:10:28,370 --> 01:10:25,260
on with the extra-terrestrial situation

1732
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:28,380
down near area 51 I have not gotten

1733
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:30,450
anything except blowing off and I'm

1734
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:32,820
sending you to go in you're gonna find

1735
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:34,860
out what is the status of this program

1736
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:36,810
and if I don't get satisfactory answers

1737
01:10:43,670 --> 01:10:39,360
I will invade this is the word to use

1738
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:43,680
invade area 51 with the army holy smokes

1739
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:45,810
that's so you know this man is telling

1740
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:47,880
me the story my eyebrows are going it up

1741
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:51,210
into my hairline as I listen and you

1742
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:52,860
know just for my point of view hear it

1743
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:56,580
you have to understand this man his

1744
01:10:59,780 --> 01:10:58,290
health was so bad when I interviewed him

1745
01:11:01,550 --> 01:10:59,790
I actually was afraid of one point was

1746
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:01,560
gonna die right in front of me he was

1747
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:07,620
coughing and is so weak you know I did

1748
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:09,570
question a lot of the things he said to

1749
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:11,490
me but that didn't all make it into the

1750
01:11:16,190 --> 01:11:14,850
into the YouTube video unfortunately but

1751
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:16,200
essentially what he said as they went

1752
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:17,760
out to area 51 they were greeted by a

1753
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:20,610
local officer and there were two other

1754
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:23,430
CIA people who also matched those five

1755
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:26,310
people and they were given a tour of the

1756
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:28,260
base and really what he describes is

1757
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:29,580
very comparable to what Bob Lazar

1758
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:33,120
described you know back in 1990 when the

1759
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:34,890
interview of George Knapp so they saw a

1760
01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:39,120
hangar with some craft inside there then

1761
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:40,590
they would take and this goes beyond

1762
01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:41,369
Lazar he said they

1763
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:42,840
we were taken to another area where we

1764
01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:47,489
saw a video of an alien autopsy and the

1765
01:11:51,949 --> 01:11:49,169
most explosive thing he said is that we

1766
01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:51,959
saw behind a glass alive being that was

1767
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:53,820
there he said he looked oriental that

1768
01:12:00,139 --> 01:11:57,090
was the languages menus and I heard him

1769
01:12:02,779 --> 01:12:00,149
telepathically one sentence he said was

1770
01:12:04,189 --> 01:12:02,789
we mean you no harm that was that was

1771
01:12:06,049 --> 01:12:04,199
the nuts and bolts of what this man said

1772
01:12:08,629 --> 01:12:06,059
to me that's not on YouTube at 17 18

1773
01:12:10,339 --> 01:12:08,639
minutes long I actually interviewed him

1774
01:12:12,739 --> 01:12:10,349
for much longer period of time than that

1775
01:12:15,109 --> 01:12:12,749
I've had mixed feelings about that video

1776
01:12:19,699 --> 01:12:15,119
being out because from my point of view

1777
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:19,709
as a researcher I really did not I would

1778
01:12:22,969 --> 01:12:21,689
not want something going out connected

1779
01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:22,979
to my name that I wasn't a hundred

1780
01:12:25,879 --> 01:12:24,659
percent sure of and I'm not a hundred

1781
01:12:27,889 --> 01:12:25,889
percent sure I don't think this man's

1782
01:12:31,339 --> 01:12:27,899
lying don't get me wrong I think he's an

1783
01:12:34,609 --> 01:12:31,349
honest man but his health was so bad his

1784
01:12:36,109 --> 01:12:34,619
mind was foggy really foggy he couldn't

1785
01:12:38,509 --> 01:12:36,119
remember the name of like J Edgar Hoover

1786
01:12:40,369 --> 01:12:38,519
for example and he just wasn't he wasn't

1787
01:12:43,069 --> 01:12:40,379
firing on all cylinders in my opinion

1788
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:43,079
and was there anything that might be

1789
01:12:48,459 --> 01:12:44,760
considered confabulation I couldn't tell

1790
01:12:50,779 --> 01:12:48,469
you I don't know so you know without

1791
01:12:52,339 --> 01:12:50,789
documentary information supporting it I

1792
01:12:53,629 --> 01:12:52,349
was just uncomfortable with the video

1793
01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:53,639
going out but I didn't have control over

1794
01:12:58,969 --> 01:12:56,820
that who put the video out well it was

1795
01:13:00,739 --> 01:12:58,979
connected to the Citizen hearing on

1796
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:00,749
disclosure which is organized by Steven

1797
01:13:06,279 --> 01:13:04,320
Bassett or and produced by two very good

1798
01:13:10,009 --> 01:13:06,289
people Reuben Langdon and Jeremy

1799
01:13:10,939 --> 01:13:10,019
Scoville who I mean I know and I like

1800
01:13:13,310 --> 01:13:10,949
Jeremy very much

1801
01:13:17,330 --> 01:13:13,320
I don't know who owns the video but it

1802
01:13:20,989 --> 01:13:17,340
was played at the Citizen hearing which

1803
01:13:23,629 --> 01:13:20,999
was spring of 2013 right in that section

1804
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:23,639
that was actually uh played was what

1805
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:26,820
they ended up on YouTube exactly okay

1806
01:13:31,009 --> 01:13:29,760
yeah yeah when I saw when it was aired

1807
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:31,019
at the Citizen hearing that was the

1808
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:33,179
first time I saw it and I thought oh wow

1809
01:13:37,699 --> 01:13:36,329
I wasn't quite expecting this so well

1810
01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:37,709
there you go well I'm surprised that

1811
01:13:42,889 --> 01:13:40,679
they didn't bounce that scenario off you

1812
01:13:45,589 --> 01:13:42,899
before this one is so many plays really

1813
01:13:47,330 --> 01:13:45,599
crazy it was just it was an insane week

1814
01:13:49,219 --> 01:13:47,340
everything is awesome crazy that week

1815
01:13:51,459 --> 01:13:49,229
okay now do you ever wonder here when

1816
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:51,469
you get these so-called late-in-life

1817
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:53,730
confessions or even some of those in

1818
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:55,860
miss deathbed confessions yeah but maybe

1819
01:13:59,720 --> 01:13:58,410
the person who's delivering this you

1820
01:14:01,220 --> 01:13:59,730
know other and the fact that memories

1821
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:01,230
change over the years and if you're

1822
01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:03,330
older and your memories aren't secure

1823
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:05,580
about anything that could be part of the

1824
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:07,410
problem but they're doing it to maybe

1825
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:09,450
give them self a little fame and fortune

1826
01:14:12,979 --> 01:14:11,489
at the end ready w have a sell their

1827
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:12,989
story so that they'll have some money

1828
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:15,420
for their families to go on I guess but

1829
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:17,190
what you really find is that most of

1830
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:18,810
these confessions are made privately to

1831
01:14:23,620 --> 01:14:20,130
one or two people they're really not

1832
01:14:26,210 --> 01:14:23,630
made with the they're not overtly

1833
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:26,220
they're not obviously that type of a

1834
01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:28,260
scenario I'm really what a war so it's

1835
01:14:31,820 --> 01:14:30,450
those two one of course those two one

1836
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:31,830
example that you could you could make

1837
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:34,770
that case I'm thinking but the fact is

1838
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:36,690
that there are just so many others that

1839
01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:38,370
have been collected through the decades

1840
01:14:44,150 --> 01:14:42,360
of people making such deathbed

1841
01:14:46,610 --> 01:14:44,160
confessions to neighbors to friends to

1842
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:46,620
researches privately I don't I don't

1843
01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:47,970
think that's the case gene I just think

1844
01:14:51,650 --> 01:14:49,380
that most of these people are trying to

1845
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:51,660
get something off their chest okay so

1846
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:54,050
with core so what's your take on that

1847
01:14:59,000 --> 01:14:57,330
yeah I think I never met core so I never

1848
01:15:01,160 --> 01:14:59,010
had the chance to talk with him he died

1849
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:01,170
in 1998 which was two years before I

1850
01:15:06,410 --> 01:15:05,040
published my first book like a lot of

1851
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:06,420
people I bought his book when it first

1852
01:15:09,979 --> 01:15:08,100
came out I got the first edition with

1853
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:09,989
Chevy there forward by Senator Strom

1854
01:15:13,670 --> 01:15:12,210
Thurmond by the way in which Strom

1855
01:15:16,370 --> 01:15:13,680
Thurmond said yes Phil of course that

1856
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:16,380
was a great American hero that forward

1857
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:19,020
was pulled immediately once Thurmond

1858
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:20,880
realized that this is a UFO book that

1859
01:15:28,010 --> 01:15:25,920
was kind of funny I think that you know

1860
01:15:30,260 --> 01:15:28,020
you have to look at Corsos background he

1861
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:30,270
he had a very good reputation within the

1862
01:15:35,630 --> 01:15:33,330
military he was the military liaison to

1863
01:15:37,729 --> 01:15:35,640
a u.s. senator he had a very strong

1864
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:37,739
reputation and one as far as I can tell

1865
01:15:43,010 --> 01:15:41,280
for integrity the fundamentals with so

1866
01:15:45,970 --> 01:15:43,020
many errors in the book that you know

1867
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:45,980
researchers had had a field day just

1868
01:15:51,050 --> 01:15:48,930
picking through the errors you know

1869
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:51,060
fact-checking courses book and errors

1870
01:15:58,670 --> 01:15:55,410
relegion I I heard a statement

1871
01:16:00,260 --> 01:15:58,680
attributed to Corso from someone who

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knew him fairly well and in course so

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when he read the book that was

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co-authored by him by him and Bill burns

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of UFO man that he said I almost don't

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even recognize

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book so I think the implication is that

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a lot was changed in that book from a

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course so himself had experienced do you

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think Richard in passing that maybe

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these changes were made to make the book

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more saleable and that's why it happened

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we have more and Richard's answer in a

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afford to rent with these prices

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imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building

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for under sixty nine thousand dollars

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afford to wait so call 866 91 steel lock

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in your price now call 866 91 steel

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a little over a year ago I began to do a

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lot of research into why even if I had a

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starving and my research led me to a

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Ecker and you are tuned in to the para

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cast let me tell you what you're gonna

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01:21:00,750 --> 01:20:58,750
hear stuff here that you probably won't

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hear anywhere else

1994
01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:03,790
here that George Noory we have Richard

1995
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:06,670
Dolan of course his new book is entitled

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01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:10,840
UFOs for the 21st century mind a fresh

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guide to an ancient mystery and we're

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gonna get more hot and heavy into that

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01:21:18,150 --> 01:21:16,000
in a moment but we've got some of the

2000
01:21:19,490 --> 01:21:18,160
subjects on the table we'll never finish

2001
01:21:20,970 --> 01:21:19,500
all of them so let's just ask about

2002
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:20,980
Philip Corso

2003
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:23,890
yeah a day after Rosco co-authored with

2004
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:27,370
bill burns and Corso didn't recognize

2005
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:30,330
that book do I assume then that it was

2006
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enhanced fictionalized whatever to sell

2007
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:35,650
more books is that what happened yes

2008
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:37,570
absolutely I chatted with bill burns

2009
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about this

2010
01:21:43,890 --> 01:21:40,870
on one occasion face to face after he

2011
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and I we had words not directly but in

2012
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:45,730
different programs in fact it might have

2013
01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:47,380
been on your program that bill might

2014
01:21:51,810 --> 01:21:49,030
have said this I can't remember where he

2015
01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:51,820
was but I had I had stated this years

2016
01:21:56,130 --> 01:21:54,040
ago that the book was essentially the

2017
01:21:57,300 --> 01:21:56,140
book made Corsos testimony useless for

2018
01:21:59,070 --> 01:21:57,310
all time because there's so many

2019
01:22:01,500 --> 01:21:59,080
mistakes in it that he was forever

2020
01:22:03,060 --> 01:22:01,510
discredited and bill bill won you know

2021
01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:03,070
he said to me look you got to understand

2022
01:22:07,140 --> 01:22:05,710
this was for a major publishing contract

2023
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:07,150
it had to be after the 50th anniversary

2024
01:22:12,150 --> 01:22:09,280
of Roswell we were under deadlines and

2025
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:12,160
and it is true Corsos initial manuscript

2026
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:14,230
was just almost unreadable you know

2027
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:15,910
might have been useful for specific

2028
01:22:20,250 --> 01:22:18,550
researchers who to go through it but it

2029
01:22:22,590 --> 01:22:20,260
would not have been readable as a book

2030
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:22,600
so his Burns's job he's a writer

2031
01:22:28,290 --> 01:22:24,880
to go through that and to to make it

2032
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:28,300
into a readable book as a publisher and

2033
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:29,530
editor myself I realize how difficult

2034
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:31,270
that is you can get some pretty bad

2035
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:34,480
manuscripts and in his case undoubtedly

2036
01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:36,190
he rushed into his case undoubtedly

2037
01:22:40,350 --> 01:22:37,870
their mistakes have got into the book

2038
01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:40,360
just for our listeners and the readers

2039
01:22:44,490 --> 01:22:42,670
of the original book could the after

2040
01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:44,500
Roswell open minds has made that

2041
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:47,020
original manuscript available by the way

2042
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:49,450
yeah very very good very good point

2043
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:52,360
Chris excellent so anyway I think that

2044
01:22:57,150 --> 01:22:54,610
with the with the book that came out it

2045
01:22:58,860 --> 01:22:57,160
was yeah you know it should people had a

2046
01:23:00,720 --> 01:22:58,870
field and gore so I think that there's

2047
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:00,730
probably something to it I don't believe

2048
01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:02,890
that Corso you know that his was the

2049
01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:05,980
only group that segwayed acquired

2050
01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:09,340
technology out to industry I think his

2051
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:11,830
was probably just one one group of

2052
01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:12,960
several

2053
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,710
because he's doing this in 1960 and it's

2054
01:23:21,649 --> 01:23:18,719
kind of late in the day all right let's

2055
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:21,659
go back to a subject we hit before which

2056
01:23:26,209 --> 01:23:23,610
is the crash retrievals because you have

2057
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:26,219
a chapter in the earth book about this

2058
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:32,850
and that is if we have this Hardware on

2059
01:23:39,620 --> 01:23:35,850
ice and we're dealing with several

2060
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generations of employees who work of

2061
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these companies and have access to this

2062
01:23:45,500 --> 01:23:42,659
material

2063
01:23:48,620 --> 01:23:45,510
why hasn't Moore come forth about the

2064
01:23:50,990 --> 01:23:48,630
actual study of the hardware it's not

2065
01:23:53,330 --> 01:23:51,000
well what people saw or remember

2066
01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:53,340
remember what their relatives saw over

2067
01:23:57,500 --> 01:23:55,260
at Roswell and I have quibbles about

2068
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:57,510
Aztec we'll get into in a moment but

2069
01:24:03,950 --> 01:24:01,199
what about direct information on what we

2070
01:24:05,660 --> 01:24:03,960
recovered well actually there was some

2071
01:24:07,970 --> 01:24:05,670
very very detailed testimony letting

2072
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:07,980
people love to dismiss this but I not so

2073
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,449
quick to dismiss it that Linda Moulton

2074
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:10,800
Howe has talked about the so-called

2075
01:24:17,930 --> 01:24:13,520
Isaac testimony which has to do with

2076
01:24:20,270 --> 01:24:17,940
Silicon Valley early 1980s and deep

2077
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:20,280
level deeply classified program to study

2078
01:24:23,660 --> 01:24:22,320
what appeared to be alien technology and

2079
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:23,670
there was actually a very explicit

2080
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:26,010
amount of testimony the fact that the

2081
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:27,690
sound people don't want to accept it you

2082
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,199
know that's one thing I I actually don't

2083
01:24:36,290 --> 01:24:33,600
think that that's as I don't think

2084
01:24:40,130 --> 01:24:36,300
that's fake a lot of people did one of

2085
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:40,140
your former co-hosts Jean tried to say

2086
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:42,210
that the images that were put out during

2087
01:24:47,209 --> 01:24:45,449
that whole thing or CGI I'm not really

2088
01:24:50,780 --> 01:24:47,219
persuaded of that either but certainly

2089
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:50,790
the testimony there has been some that

2090
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:53,730
has come out detailing the the nature of

2091
01:24:59,810 --> 01:24:56,840
the kind of scientific work and the

2092
01:25:01,490 --> 01:24:59,820
source is what Bob wood has talked about

2093
01:25:03,860 --> 01:25:01,500
for years and years dr. Robert wood the

2094
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:03,870
Majestic documents which if you were to

2095
01:25:07,340 --> 01:25:05,730
print them all out it would be almost 2

2096
01:25:09,340 --> 01:25:07,350
inches thick it's a lot of these not

2097
01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:09,350
just 7 8 pages of majestic 12 documents

2098
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:13,679
this is a large number of documents that

2099
01:25:17,330 --> 01:25:15,570
are not from photographic negatives

2100
01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:17,340
either they're actual paper that's been

2101
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:20,699
they tested and so on that actually do

2102
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:24,719
put a story together of the of the

2103
01:25:28,220 --> 01:25:26,850
attempts to study and

2104
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:28,230
attempt to replicate some of this

2105
01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:31,290
technology since you raised that point

2106
01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:35,910
mj-12 is an ongoing controversy Stanton

2107
01:25:39,890 --> 01:25:38,100
Friedman accepts the reality but there

2108
01:25:41,690 --> 01:25:39,900
have been recent public discussions and

2109
01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:41,700
for example involving Robert Hastings

2110
01:25:46,490 --> 01:25:44,310
author of UFOs and nukes where he

2111
01:25:48,710 --> 01:25:46,500
doesn't believe it for a moment he said

2112
01:25:50,150 --> 01:25:48,720
this for 25 years right he's done the

2113
01:25:51,650 --> 01:25:50,160
same tune for that's right and Kevin

2114
01:25:55,940 --> 01:25:51,660
Randall has been singing the same tune

2115
01:25:58,430 --> 01:25:55,950
also in harmony so what is your take of

2116
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:58,440
that do you think that it's too obvious

2117
01:26:01,940 --> 01:25:59,760
mj-12

2118
01:26:03,950 --> 01:26:01,950
or maybe there are other documents that

2119
01:26:05,930 --> 01:26:03,960
are authentic and mj-12 was part of the

2120
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:05,940
disinformation well I think when you're

2121
01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:07,410
talking about classified documents

2122
01:26:11,330 --> 01:26:09,270
you're not talking you know a classified

2123
01:26:13,370 --> 01:26:11,340
document is not an infallible document

2124
01:26:15,140 --> 01:26:13,380
it's just a document it's classified

2125
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:15,150
and it could be documents in the

2126
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:16,320
classified world that go through

2127
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:19,650
different stages of edit editorial

2128
01:26:24,170 --> 01:26:21,930
review I mean there's all kinds of

2129
01:26:26,180 --> 01:26:24,180
possibilities here I I don't agree with

2130
01:26:27,740 --> 01:26:26,190
Randall or Hastings on this matter I

2131
01:26:28,940 --> 01:26:27,750
think they've been wrong and I think

2132
01:26:31,010 --> 01:26:28,950
they've been wrongheaded for years

2133
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:31,020
I think Stanton is more right than wrong

2134
01:26:37,820 --> 01:26:35,010
on the matter I think that you know I I

2135
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:37,830
was a I was terrified for years of those

2136
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:40,560
initial majestic those majestic

2137
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:41,940
documents I'm not talking about the

2138
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:45,690
initial mj-12 I'm talking about the ones

2139
01:26:49,010 --> 01:26:47,250
that came from the attic of Tim Cooper

2140
01:26:51,770 --> 01:26:49,020
who himself was well-connected with the

2141
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:51,780
US defense establishment to his father

2142
01:26:58,340 --> 01:26:56,130
and that had been analyzed and analyzed

2143
01:27:01,580 --> 01:26:58,350
and analyzed again and again by Ryan and

2144
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,590
Bob wood that I think overall show a

2145
01:27:05,810 --> 01:27:04,080
high degree of credibility and again if

2146
01:27:07,070 --> 01:27:05,820
you stack those documents up it's it's

2147
01:27:10,250 --> 01:27:07,080
an inch and a half almost two inches

2148
01:27:13,340 --> 01:27:10,260
high there's a lot of them if you read

2149
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:13,350
through them chronologically you're

2150
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:15,210
gonna be very hard-pressed if you want

2151
01:27:19,010 --> 01:27:16,530
to see them as a hoax you have to ask

2152
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:19,020
yourself who is hoaxing this it's not

2153
01:27:22,670 --> 01:27:20,970
one guy with an IQ of 250 out of

2154
01:27:24,500 --> 01:27:22,680
someone's basement because that's the IQ

2155
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:24,510
you'd have to have to hoax all of those

2156
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:26,370
by yourself so it's not just Richard

2157
01:27:29,660 --> 01:27:29,010
Doty in his basement of course not not

2158
01:27:32,210 --> 01:27:29,670
even close

2159
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:32,220
not a chance but the sophistication the

2160
01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:35,130
complexity the span of information I

2161
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:37,500
mean if this is a hoax you're talking

2162
01:27:42,900 --> 01:27:40,210
about a large team of PhDs

2163
01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:42,910
- hoax it with real expertise and

2164
01:27:48,630 --> 01:27:45,550
document creation with real expertise in

2165
01:27:51,300 --> 01:27:48,640
any number of scientific fields and

2166
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:51,310
historical realities so so if that's the

2167
01:27:55,950 --> 01:27:53,310
case if they are a hoax

2168
01:27:58,260 --> 01:27:55,960
that in itself it seems to me almost

2169
01:27:59,610 --> 01:27:58,270
attests of the reality of UFOs because

2170
01:28:02,550 --> 01:27:59,620
you have to ask yourself who are the

2171
01:28:05,130 --> 01:28:02,560
hoaxing is for guys like me researchers

2172
01:28:06,990 --> 01:28:05,140
like like Stanton Friedman really we're

2173
01:28:09,930 --> 01:28:07,000
that important that you would create an

2174
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:09,940
entire expensive team of PhDs to make

2175
01:28:15,630 --> 01:28:12,840
this an unbelievable cache of documents

2176
01:28:17,370 --> 01:28:15,640
but why would you do that or would it be

2177
01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:17,380
for the Russians well if it's for the

2178
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:19,540
Russians to what end you know you can't

2179
01:28:24,030 --> 01:28:21,730
disinformation is not the same as lies

2180
01:28:26,130 --> 01:28:24,040
as if it was all lies that would be the

2181
01:28:27,540 --> 01:28:26,140
easiest thing to dismiss so this

2182
01:28:29,670 --> 01:28:27,550
information has to have truth in there

2183
01:28:30,990 --> 01:28:29,680
too for it to be credible so if you're

2184
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:31,000
gonna have disinformation for the

2185
01:28:35,790 --> 01:28:33,250
Russians then it has to be something

2186
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:35,800
like if you're gonna have UFO oriented

2187
01:28:39,630 --> 01:28:37,300
information it's disinfo for the

2188
01:28:40,890 --> 01:28:39,640
Russians then implicitly you're an

2189
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:40,900
you're recognizing that the Russians

2190
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:43,360
believe in UFOs because otherwise it

2191
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:45,280
wouldn't be credible as disinfo so in

2192
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:46,510
other words however you look at these

2193
01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:48,970
majestic documents this is why I have I

2194
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:49,900
have a hard time with people like

2195
01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:51,370
Hastings and Randle because it's like

2196
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:52,710
you have the subtlety of a ten-year-old

2197
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:54,810
they see the world in black and white

2198
01:28:58,980 --> 01:28:56,770
the world is not that simple

2199
01:29:00,840 --> 01:28:58,990
the world is not that like like a

2200
01:29:01,860 --> 01:29:00,850
ten-year-old child sees it where it's

2201
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:01,870
just like either one thing or another

2202
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:03,610
there are shades of grey throughout our

2203
01:29:08,190 --> 01:29:05,770
lives and our reality is this

2204
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:08,200
disinformation it's important and it's

2205
01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:10,630
still in other words it's still worthy

2206
01:29:13,770 --> 01:29:12,070
of our attention and there's still

2207
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:13,780
something very significant about these

2208
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:15,850
documents for Hastings to say as he's

2209
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:19,210
done since the late 1980s oh yeah bill

2210
01:29:25,470 --> 01:29:22,330
Moore passed himself off as intelligence

2211
01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:25,480
officer and Bill Moore seems to be lying

2212
01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:26,830
about this and Bill Moore made this

2213
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:30,070
crazy confession back in 1989 throw the

2214
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:32,110
whole thing out to me that's that's

2215
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:32,560
silly

2216
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:34,480
to me that's a lack of subtlety it's a

2217
01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:36,490
lack of sophistication let's look more

2218
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:38,260
into this in the implications but I want

2219
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:39,520
to go back to one thing about crash

2220
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:42,370
retrievals now with Roswell you have

2221
01:29:46,230 --> 01:29:44,650
lots of first-hand remembrances of

2222
01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:46,240
things that happen we can argue about

2223
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:48,790
the cause we can say okay there was a

2224
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:50,890
spaceship it was a test aircraft or

2225
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:53,210
something maybe it was the mogul

2226
01:29:57,220 --> 01:29:55,280
and there are various reasons to say one

2227
01:29:57,580 --> 01:29:57,230
or the other is correct so that's a

2228
01:30:00,580 --> 01:29:57,590
point

2229
01:30:03,790 --> 01:30:00,590
maleeh --gel well really well we're

2230
01:30:06,459 --> 01:30:03,800
arguing the cause of a real event that

2231
01:30:07,870 --> 01:30:06,469
we know something happened okay and then

2232
01:30:10,810 --> 01:30:07,880
we can talk about the different causes

2233
01:30:13,630 --> 01:30:10,820
and the value of each cause we'll go for

2234
01:30:15,250 --> 01:30:13,640
that with Aztec there may be another

2235
01:30:18,220 --> 01:30:15,260
problem which I'll get into in a moment

2236
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:18,230
we have Richard Dolan this book that he

2237
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:20,330
has out is called UFOs for the 21st

2238
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:23,210
century mind and we'll get into a little

2239
01:30:27,250 --> 01:30:25,730
bit in our next segment about the goals

2240
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:27,260
what he's trying to accomplish with it

2241
01:30:30,910 --> 01:30:28,850
because we're talking about the contents

2242
01:30:37,870 --> 01:30:30,920
very much now with Jean and Kris you're

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in the para cast free from the shackles

2244
01:30:47,260 --> 01:30:41,290
of corporate America we're the place for

2245
01:30:48,430 --> 01:30:47,270
independent thinkers first came attack

2246
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,440
of the rock codes and it was a

2247
01:30:52,420 --> 01:30:50,480
critically acclaimed success and now

2248
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:52,430
there is the coming of the protectors a

2249
01:30:56,830 --> 01:30:54,530
former military intelligence man is

2250
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:56,840
contacted by a space woman in a dream a

2251
01:31:01,060 --> 01:30:58,880
dream that turns out to be a nightmare

2252
01:31:03,070 --> 01:31:01,070
because evil forces on our distant

2253
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planet are planning to conquer the earth

2254
01:31:07,900 --> 01:31:05,450
this is gripping science fiction of the

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01:31:09,970 --> 01:31:07,910
classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

2256
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,980
and the coming of the protectors find

2257
01:31:16,660 --> 01:31:12,560
out more at Rocko its calm that's rock

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oh it's our Ock oids calm so here's what

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the site went down it took hours before

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it returned but I'd already placed the

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Peres gas Aztec New Mexico nineteen

2351
01:35:08,900 --> 01:35:06,120
forty eight possible crash of a

2352
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:08,910
spaceship Richard Dolan joins us now we

2353
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:10,530
should tell you about the background of

2354
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:12,810
the power cast when it comes to Aztec

2355
01:35:17,780 --> 01:35:15,510
we've had Scott Ramsey and Frank Warren

2356
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:17,790
talking about the subject several times

2357
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:21,690
we had debate quote-unquote with Scott

2358
01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:23,850
Ramsey and Kevin Randall about Aztec

2359
01:35:28,970 --> 01:35:27,060
what bothers me about Aztec is you know

2360
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:28,980
with something like Roswell everyone

2361
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:31,650
knows something happened with Aztec it's

2362
01:35:36,770 --> 01:35:33,930
very hard to find anyone who thinks they

2363
01:35:39,020 --> 01:35:36,780
remember that something happened and the

2364
01:35:41,330 --> 01:35:39,030
biggest presentation of Aztec is of

2365
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:41,340
course Frank Scully's book and we can

2366
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:43,050
argue back and forth about the

2367
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:45,810
reputation of the two scientists from

2368
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:48,570
which he got the information G Bower and

2369
01:35:53,180 --> 01:35:51,120
Newton we know there's a lot of

2370
01:35:56,300 --> 01:35:53,190
controversy about that but we don't have

2371
01:35:58,010 --> 01:35:56,310
as much ironclad evidence of an event

2372
01:36:01,370 --> 01:35:58,020
it's either a few people who knew

2373
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:01,380
somebody and not much more and I read

2374
01:36:06,740 --> 01:36:04,290
your comments on and I think that Ramsey

2375
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:06,750
in his book on the subject did probably

2376
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:10,800
the best he could in trying to present a

2377
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:13,390
case in favor of ass

2378
01:36:16,890 --> 01:36:15,070
but don't you think it's really lacking

2379
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:16,900
compared to anything like Roswell well

2380
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:18,730
it's not as strong a case as Roswell for

2381
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:20,920
sure I completely agree with that gene

2382
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:23,530
but yes I think it's important to

2383
01:36:29,220 --> 01:36:25,750
mention this in context with a stick

2384
01:36:32,340 --> 01:36:29,230
Aztec was the first UFO crash that got a

2385
01:36:34,230 --> 01:36:32,350
lot of ink in terms of a book treatment

2386
01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:34,240
Frank Scully back in 1950 wrote about it

2387
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:36,520
within a couple of years Scully's book

2388
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:39,400
was was ripped to pieces by a journalist

2389
01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:43,210
named JP Cohn ever since then the Aztec

2390
01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:44,830
case was just everyone ran away from and

2391
01:36:48,090 --> 01:36:45,550
said oh it's a hoax

2392
01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:48,100
it's a hoax but what what Scott Ramsey

2393
01:36:54,150 --> 01:36:50,740
points out this is really important is

2394
01:36:56,730 --> 01:36:54,160
that JP Khan's entire motivation for

2395
01:36:58,230 --> 01:36:56,740
going after Scully was had nothing to do

2396
01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:58,240
with intellectual integrity it had

2397
01:37:02,010 --> 01:36:59,440
everything to do with personal jealousy

2398
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:02,020
and he was out to get Scully and in fact

2399
01:37:06,930 --> 01:37:04,090
wanted initially wanted to write the

2400
01:37:09,060 --> 01:37:06,940
book with Scully like he was into it he

2401
01:37:11,130 --> 01:37:09,070
got really into the case and when Scully

2402
01:37:13,140 --> 01:37:11,140
basically said you know the hell with

2403
01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:13,150
you I don't need you Cohn went in this

2404
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:15,340
other route and and Scott and his wife

2405
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:17,140
Suzanne Ram's he really laid this out

2406
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:19,030
very very well in their excellent book

2407
01:37:21,780 --> 01:37:19,960
now

2408
01:37:24,590 --> 01:37:21,790
that doesn't prove that the Aztec crash

2409
01:37:27,420 --> 01:37:24,600
itself was an alien crash but it does

2410
01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:27,430
give you pause to make well wait if so

2411
01:37:32,940 --> 01:37:29,260
if the if the accusation of hoax was

2412
01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:32,950
itself motivated out of you know things

2413
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:34,630
that motives that were not

2414
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:37,930
intellectually pure than what was the

2415
01:37:43,710 --> 01:37:40,560
case and I think he put together

2416
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,720
something that is suggestive that

2417
01:37:47,490 --> 01:37:45,760
something extraordinary did happen in

2418
01:37:49,620 --> 01:37:47,500
Aztec the case is never going to be as

2419
01:37:52,380 --> 01:37:49,630
strong as the Roswell case no question

2420
01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:52,390
about it but I think that it's it's a

2421
01:37:57,210 --> 01:37:54,340
really it's a real possibility at this

2422
01:37:59,310 --> 01:37:57,220
point I think what we really need here

2423
01:38:02,910 --> 01:37:59,320
is some more direct information like for

2424
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:02,920
example Kevin Randle had a piece couple

2425
01:38:06,510 --> 01:38:04,450
of part articles so for a different

2426
01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:06,520
perspective his blog from an engineer

2427
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:10,120
who lived in Aztec and I guess was aware

2428
01:38:13,650 --> 01:38:11,590
of the claims and he said nobody

2429
01:38:17,070 --> 01:38:13,660
remembers anything ever happening then

2430
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:17,080
and the argument in valise 60-plus years

2431
01:38:23,310 --> 01:38:19,510
sure but you're talking here about a

2432
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:23,320
small town tiny town something really

2433
01:38:26,509 --> 01:38:24,490
incredible happens

2434
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:26,519
a few miles nearby

2435
01:38:29,899 --> 01:38:28,050
and now the local populace knows

2436
01:38:32,359 --> 01:38:29,909
anything about it nobody's talking about

2437
01:38:34,370 --> 01:38:32,369
it think about the way the tent let's

2438
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:34,380
see this is I'm really glad you

2439
01:38:38,109 --> 01:38:35,699
mentioned this because this just shows a

2440
01:38:42,169 --> 01:38:38,119
very short sightedness of thinking here

2441
01:38:43,790 --> 01:38:42,179
you've got a tiny town admittedly yes

2442
01:38:46,819 --> 01:38:43,800
and that's that's part of the thing

2443
01:38:49,399 --> 01:38:46,829
about it this is there's no internet

2444
01:38:52,509 --> 01:38:49,409
very few probably no one had their own

2445
01:38:55,790 --> 01:38:52,519
telephone I mean much less internet and

2446
01:38:57,290 --> 01:38:55,800
if you have a recovery that takes place

2447
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:57,300
a few miles outside of town that is

2448
01:39:03,379 --> 01:39:01,280
sealed off and amid a very patriotic

2449
01:39:05,629 --> 01:39:03,389
population this is right after World War

2450
01:39:07,879 --> 01:39:05,639
two and if the Army says jump you say

2451
01:39:07,879 --> 01:39:07,889
how high

2452
01:39:12,140 --> 01:39:10,640
I could easily I could easily see this

2453
01:39:14,180 --> 01:39:12,150
thing dying within a couple of years

2454
01:39:15,649 --> 01:39:14,190
maybe a few people talking about it

2455
01:39:17,870 --> 01:39:15,659
right away and then just a whole lot of

2456
01:39:21,709 --> 01:39:17,880
nothing that's the easiest thing for me

2457
01:39:24,259 --> 01:39:21,719
to see to see then Richard that if there

2458
01:39:26,330 --> 01:39:24,269
wasn't a Frank Scully book nobody would

2459
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:26,340
ever know about this case yeah what if

2460
01:39:29,899 --> 01:39:27,840
it would have gone away well the same

2461
01:39:32,029 --> 01:39:29,909
with Roswell you know had for San

2462
01:39:34,549 --> 01:39:32,039
Freedman not bumped into Jesse Marcel in

2463
01:39:37,069 --> 01:39:34,559
New Orleans back in the late 70s Roswell

2464
01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:37,079
story had a little more legs to it you

2465
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:38,639
know it had the news article and there

2466
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:40,530
were people in the town talking about it

2467
01:39:43,970 --> 01:39:42,690
quietly but they would have all died off

2468
01:39:44,959 --> 01:39:43,980
and the story yourself would have died

2469
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:44,969
off and that would have been the end of

2470
01:39:50,750 --> 01:39:47,010
it and one thing that Scott Ramsey did

2471
01:39:52,939 --> 01:39:50,760
find at hard canyon was the trying to

2472
01:39:54,859 --> 01:39:52,949
remember there's a concrete slab right

2473
01:39:58,009 --> 01:39:54,869
that was used at the crash site that

2474
01:40:00,919 --> 01:39:58,019
that is suggestive and that it seemed to

2475
01:40:03,140 --> 01:40:00,929
be there to support a crane that was

2476
01:40:04,970 --> 01:40:03,150
there to remove the craft I mean there's

2477
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:04,980
actually something to go on here

2478
01:40:08,750 --> 01:40:07,170
and again I agree with you in the sense

2479
01:40:11,390 --> 01:40:08,760
that this is not as strong a case as

2480
01:40:14,270 --> 01:40:11,400
Roswell probably never will be but I

2481
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:14,280
think the initial dismissal that lasted

2482
01:40:17,959 --> 01:40:15,449
for generations

2483
01:40:19,580 --> 01:40:17,969
you know this reflexive fear of like no

2484
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:19,590
one wants to be associated with a hoax I

2485
01:40:23,180 --> 01:40:21,210
think we have to rethink that and I

2486
01:40:25,819 --> 01:40:23,190
don't think that that's a really smart

2487
01:40:27,529 --> 01:40:25,829
way to look at this case okay now that

2488
01:40:29,419 --> 01:40:27,539
concrete slab I don't know that might be

2489
01:40:31,390 --> 01:40:29,429
stretching it because there could be

2490
01:40:34,759 --> 01:40:31,400
other things that wanted to drag

2491
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:34,769
regardless how at this point do we ever

2492
01:40:39,020 --> 01:40:37,050
do anything more in getting information

2493
01:40:40,299 --> 01:40:39,030
about a stick unless there's somebody's

2494
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:40,309
diary somewhere

2495
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:42,280
somebody's a surreptitious photograph

2496
01:40:46,869 --> 01:40:44,449
somebody knows Haley has something

2497
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:46,879
direct probably nothing probably the

2498
01:40:50,169 --> 01:40:48,169
case is just gonna sit where it is I

2499
01:40:51,909 --> 01:40:50,179
think it's gone probably as far as it

2500
01:40:53,049 --> 01:40:51,919
can I did get a statement a number of

2501
01:40:54,849 --> 01:40:53,059
years ago I had a conversation with

2502
01:40:57,939 --> 01:40:54,859
William Steinman who wrote an earlier

2503
01:40:59,349 --> 01:40:57,949
book on Aztec 1980s not not anywhere

2504
01:41:01,659 --> 01:40:59,359
nearly as strong as what Scott and

2505
01:41:05,559 --> 01:41:01,669
susana Ramsey did not not even close but

2506
01:41:07,569 --> 01:41:05,569
Steinman told me personally that when he

2507
01:41:10,809 --> 01:41:07,579
was investigating the Aztec case he had

2508
01:41:13,869 --> 01:41:10,819
a conversation with Bill Moore who you

2509
01:41:16,719 --> 01:41:13,879
know as we now know was was talking with

2510
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:16,729
US intelligence was running some

2511
01:41:21,069 --> 01:41:19,010
disinformation at least on a limited

2512
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:21,079
scale maybe maybe a larger scale but at

2513
01:41:29,679 --> 01:41:23,689
least on some scale and when when

2514
01:41:31,689 --> 01:41:29,689
Steinman told Moore that he was that you

2515
01:41:35,139 --> 01:41:31,699
know the Aztec crash was was a real

2516
01:41:37,839 --> 01:41:35,149
thing Moore said oh no no you're not

2517
01:41:39,219 --> 01:41:37,849
going to write that and it's time I said

2518
01:41:40,299 --> 01:41:39,229
what what are you talking about I'm not

2519
01:41:41,679 --> 01:41:40,309
gonna write that yes of course I'm gonna

2520
01:41:43,389 --> 01:41:41,689
write that it was it was a real event it

2521
01:41:44,109 --> 01:41:43,399
was a real thing it was the et or said

2522
01:41:46,750 --> 01:41:44,119
no you're not

2523
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:46,760
and Steinman said to me that at that

2524
01:41:55,229 --> 01:41:49,760
point he asked Moore who are you who are

2525
01:41:58,869 --> 01:41:55,239
you working for and Moore told him I

2526
01:42:00,219 --> 01:41:58,879
have always worked for CIA there has

2527
01:42:03,819 --> 01:42:00,229
never been a time in which I have not

2528
01:42:05,949 --> 01:42:03,829
worked for the CIA and you are not going

2529
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:05,959
to say that the Aztec crash happened in

2530
01:42:09,939 --> 01:42:08,239
Steinman basically set up yours and he

2531
01:42:11,469 --> 01:42:09,949
ended up writing his book anyway that's

2532
01:42:12,489 --> 01:42:11,479
the story that Bill Steinman said to me

2533
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:12,499
directly

2534
01:42:17,979 --> 01:42:15,530
now did Moore ever give a reason other

2535
01:42:20,649 --> 01:42:17,989
than saying I'm with CIA and don't do it

2536
01:42:22,569 --> 01:42:20,659
did he give any reason why Steinman

2537
01:42:24,429 --> 01:42:22,579
shouldn't write about it Bill Steinman

2538
01:42:25,959 --> 01:42:24,439
didn't tell me anything more than that I

2539
01:42:27,489 --> 01:42:25,969
shared this story by the way with Linda

2540
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:27,499
Moulton Howe Steinman had said almost

2541
01:42:32,290 --> 01:42:30,050
the exact same thing to her as well so

2542
01:42:33,549 --> 01:42:32,300
he told Linda and myself but I don't

2543
01:42:36,399 --> 01:42:33,559
know anything more about why that would

2544
01:42:38,979 --> 01:42:36,409
be the case so weird so weird so anyway

2545
01:42:42,279 --> 01:42:38,989
we covering the periphery of your book

2546
01:42:44,409 --> 01:42:42,289
mentioning things in it overall what are

2547
01:42:46,509 --> 01:42:44,419
you trying to do with UFOs for the 21st

2548
01:42:48,099 --> 01:42:46,519
century mind and I asked that in the

2549
01:42:50,829 --> 01:42:48,109
context of the fact that of course you

2550
01:42:53,009 --> 01:42:50,839
wrote those two volumes of UFOs in the

2551
01:42:54,219 --> 01:42:53,019
national security state going through

2552
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:54,229
1990

2553
01:42:59,649 --> 01:42:57,050
we assumed there would be a 1991 towards

2554
01:43:02,229 --> 01:42:59,659
2000 whatever version eventually was

2555
01:43:04,359 --> 01:43:02,239
this a detour or what a little bit of a

2556
01:43:06,279 --> 01:43:04,369
detour it's there certainly will be a

2557
01:43:08,169 --> 01:43:06,289
third volume of the national security

2558
01:43:10,750 --> 01:43:08,179
state series this is a different kind of

2559
01:43:13,839 --> 01:43:10,760
the book a couple of years ago I was

2560
01:43:15,549 --> 01:43:13,849
asked by kind of an online university at

2561
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:15,559
the time if I would do an introduction

2562
01:43:20,259 --> 01:43:18,170
to UFOs type of a course and I thought

2563
01:43:22,839 --> 01:43:20,269
about it they and I agreed to do it it

2564
01:43:26,020 --> 01:43:22,849
would be 12 lectures an hour-long each

2565
01:43:27,969 --> 01:43:26,030
on my choice however I wanted to

2566
01:43:30,339 --> 01:43:27,979
whatever I felt was important about the

2567
01:43:32,049 --> 01:43:30,349
UFO phenomenon and I thought this is a

2568
01:43:33,129 --> 01:43:32,059
nice opportunity and when I'm done with

2569
01:43:34,899 --> 01:43:33,139
this I'm going to turn it into a book

2570
01:43:37,540 --> 01:43:34,909
and this is the book so this is my

2571
01:43:40,029 --> 01:43:37,550
attempt to do and a true sophisticated

2572
01:43:42,489 --> 01:43:40,039
overview of the entire crazy amazing

2573
01:43:44,770 --> 01:43:42,499
fascinating subject of UFOs everything

2574
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:44,780
that I feel is important about it so

2575
01:43:48,839 --> 01:43:46,400
there's a great deal of history from

2576
01:43:50,589 --> 01:43:48,849
ancient aliens right up till today

2577
01:43:52,989 --> 01:43:50,599
sightings that I consider to be

2578
01:43:55,209 --> 01:43:52,999
important I try to document that as well

2579
01:43:56,979 --> 01:43:55,219
as I can but there's much more there's a

2580
01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:56,989
lot of philosophy in this in other words

2581
01:44:01,629 --> 01:43:58,719
what is it that constitutes a UFO

2582
01:44:04,660 --> 01:44:01,639
particularly in our era of drones and

2583
01:44:06,759 --> 01:44:04,670
YouTube and you know Adobe Photoshop and

2584
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:06,769
so forth but there's much more than that

2585
01:44:10,689 --> 01:44:09,050
there's the several chapters that deal

2586
01:44:12,580 --> 01:44:10,699
with the politics and in my attempt to

2587
01:44:14,620 --> 01:44:12,590
go deep with that politics trying to

2588
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,630
understand how does it cover-up work my

2589
01:44:17,649 --> 01:44:16,400
current thoughts on that whole thing but

2590
01:44:20,140 --> 01:44:17,659
then there's much more than that there's

2591
01:44:21,459 --> 01:44:20,150
a science the crazy science of this

2592
01:44:23,649 --> 01:44:21,469
phenomenon it doesn't seem to make sense

2593
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:23,659
except that it actually does make sense

2594
01:44:27,879 --> 01:44:25,570
when you look at contemporary

2595
01:44:31,149 --> 01:44:27,889
developments in science everything from

2596
01:44:34,029 --> 01:44:31,159
propulsion to space-time to string

2597
01:44:36,580 --> 01:44:34,039
theory to consciousness itself and then

2598
01:44:38,049 --> 01:44:36,590
there's a whole part of this theme of

2599
01:44:39,969 --> 01:44:38,059
this book which is my own attempt to

2600
01:44:42,910 --> 01:44:39,979
kind of come to terms with and confront

2601
01:44:44,770 --> 01:44:42,920
the infiltration you might say or the

2602
01:44:47,410 --> 01:44:44,780
influence of New Age thought New Age

2603
01:44:48,759 --> 01:44:47,420
culture into the UFO culture and what

2604
01:44:50,609 --> 01:44:48,769
does that actually mean is that good is

2605
01:44:53,109 --> 01:44:50,619
that bad is it helpful is it not helpful

2606
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:53,119
and then there's a chapter that you know

2607
01:44:56,979 --> 01:44:55,130
looks ahead at disclosure I mean I've

2608
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:56,989
written about this elsewhere but current

2609
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,489
thoughts there's another chapter just

2610
01:45:03,939 --> 01:45:00,320
deals with the social implications of

2611
01:45:05,770 --> 01:45:03,949
this phenomenon and and of course that

2612
01:45:07,719 --> 01:45:05,780
is looking at this in an era of copy and

2613
01:45:08,259 --> 01:45:07,729
paste rumors on Facebook and YouTube and

2614
01:45:10,060 --> 01:45:08,269
so for

2615
01:45:11,529 --> 01:45:10,070
and if we were several chapters dealing

2616
01:45:13,239 --> 01:45:11,539
with contact itself and what's up with

2617
01:45:15,310 --> 01:45:13,249
that what does that mean well I wanted

2618
01:45:16,989 --> 01:45:15,320
to ask about the contact aspect in the

2619
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:16,999
abductions aspect in our next segment

2620
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:19,010
we'll go more into this Richard Dolan

2621
01:45:28,419 --> 01:45:21,050
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2622
01:45:31,270 --> 01:45:28,429
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2623
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2625
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2626
01:45:41,950 --> 01:45:39,980
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2627
01:45:43,870 --> 01:45:41,960
crippling you I've defended people from

2628
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:43,880
the IRS for over thirty years I've

2629
01:45:47,649 --> 01:45:45,679
helped thousands and I can help you too

2630
01:45:49,390 --> 01:45:47,659
I wrote the book on IRS settlement and

2631
01:45:52,779 --> 01:45:49,400
I'm telling you there's no such thing as

2632
01:45:54,700 --> 01:45:52,789
a hopeless case call 834 no tax to

2633
01:45:56,649 --> 01:45:54,710
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2634
01:45:58,509 --> 01:45:56,659
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2635
01:46:02,770 --> 01:45:58,519
better time to solve your problem call

2636
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:02,780
834 no tax that's 803 for no tax or my

2637
01:46:07,959 --> 01:46:06,530
website Dan pillow calm hi this is Ted

2638
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:07,969
Anderson have you ever wondered why

2639
01:46:12,009 --> 01:46:10,010
banks dockworkers investment advisors

2640
01:46:13,779 --> 01:46:12,019
won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

2641
01:46:15,580 --> 01:46:13,789
available since nineteen eighty six yet

2642
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:15,590
the financial industry won't recognize

2643
01:46:19,450 --> 01:46:17,119
the value of gold for your retirement

2644
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:19,460
goal has outperformed paper investments

2645
01:46:23,759 --> 01:46:21,650
yet no word about IRAs if you would like

2646
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:23,769
to have gold for your retirement call

2647
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:26,570
866 two two three seven don't get left

2648
01:46:31,390 --> 01:46:28,249
behind by rising inflation and low

2649
01:46:36,740 --> 01:46:31,400
returns call 866 to two three seven

2650
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:40,580
I will never forget the day my son

2651
01:46:46,130 --> 01:46:43,440
Jeremy told me he hated me and slammed

2652
01:46:48,890 --> 01:46:46,140
the door in my face on behavioral

2653
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:48,900
therapist Janet Lehman behavior problems

2654
01:46:53,870 --> 01:46:51,210
can turn the child you love and your

2655
01:46:55,820 --> 01:46:53,880
life into a nightmare that's why my

2656
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,830
husband James and I created the total

2657
01:47:00,530 --> 01:46:58,320
transformation the step-by-step program

2658
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:00,540
that shows you how to fix the worst

2659
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:02,880
behavior problems and get your child to

2660
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:04,890
respect and listen to you again

2661
01:47:10,430 --> 01:47:07,290
no matter what the behavior defiance

2662
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:10,440
backtalk angry outbursts disrespect we

2663
01:47:13,070 --> 01:47:11,610
can help you stop it

2664
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

2675
01:48:00,100 --> 01:47:51,490
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2676
01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:00,110
here's Jane Steinberg Richard Dolan

2677
01:48:05,170 --> 01:48:03,710
we're talking about UFOs for the 21st

2678
01:48:07,150 --> 01:48:05,180
century mind we've been focusing on a

2679
01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:07,160
lot of the national security stuff about

2680
01:48:12,370 --> 01:48:09,880
Roswell as second the implications and

2681
01:48:15,250 --> 01:48:12,380
the reason I want to talk about this

2682
01:48:17,260 --> 01:48:15,260
chapter 8 called contact and abduction

2683
01:48:19,780 --> 01:48:17,270
is because a couple of weeks ago we had

2684
01:48:21,460 --> 01:48:19,790
Robert Salas on the show of course we

2685
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:21,470
know about Malmstrom and we're talking

2686
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:24,080
about a guy who was in the military and

2687
01:48:28,990 --> 01:48:26,560
he's a pretty straight-laced kind of guy

2688
01:48:31,450 --> 01:48:29,000
mathematician everything and suddenly

2689
01:48:34,330 --> 01:48:31,460
he's laying this abduction tale on us

2690
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:34,340
Richard Dolan yeah yeah oh boy what is

2691
01:48:38,590 --> 01:48:37,130
your take about abductions and I think

2692
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:38,600
the other thing we always focus on when

2693
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:40,850
we talk about duck shion's is the way

2694
01:48:44,980 --> 01:48:42,890
the information is brought forth and

2695
01:48:47,110 --> 01:48:44,990
whether you think that when we're

2696
01:48:49,810 --> 01:48:47,120
starting to use hypnotic regression

2697
01:48:51,700 --> 01:48:49,820
there's so much the danger of basically

2698
01:48:54,130 --> 01:48:51,710
contaminating the evidence and their

2699
01:48:56,500 --> 01:48:54,140
memory yes these are very really

2700
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:56,510
important questions Jean I I was as

2701
01:49:01,000 --> 01:48:58,880
astonished as probably anyone else when

2702
01:49:03,460 --> 01:49:01,010
I learned that Robert Salas ed had said

2703
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:03,470
that yes he too is an abductee he wasn't

2704
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,880
going to hold back anymore and I just

2705
01:49:08,770 --> 01:49:06,560
said well I don't really know what to

2706
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:08,780
say about that it's i-i've not really

2707
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:10,490
delved into it with him I haven't spoken

2708
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:12,110
with him in any detail and I haven't I

2709
01:49:16,060 --> 01:49:13,730
haven't read the details of what he said

2710
01:49:18,090 --> 01:49:16,070
I heard about it probably like a lot of

2711
01:49:20,350 --> 01:49:18,100
other people the thing is with abduction

2712
01:49:23,290 --> 01:49:20,360
20 years ago when I started researching

2713
01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:23,300
UFOs I remembered thinking I'm not gonna

2714
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:25,490
get into any weird stuff like abductions

2715
01:49:28,990 --> 01:49:27,050
and crop circles and mutilations I'm

2716
01:49:31,150 --> 01:49:29,000
just gonna study UFOs like as if that

2717
01:49:33,250 --> 01:49:31,160
wasn't strange enough but the fact is to

2718
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:33,260
ignore abductions would be I often

2719
01:49:36,850 --> 01:49:34,370
likened it to going to this amazing

2720
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:36,860
Beach and you just put your little toe

2721
01:49:40,150 --> 01:49:38,330
in the water you say ok I've had enough

2722
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:40,160
there's a whole big ocean out there and

2723
01:49:44,260 --> 01:49:41,930
at some point you know if you're brave

2724
01:49:47,470 --> 01:49:44,270
enough you have to swim abductions are

2725
01:49:50,770 --> 01:49:47,480
an apparent phenomenon that will not go

2726
01:49:53,110 --> 01:49:50,780
away again I mean for years I would read

2727
01:49:56,050 --> 01:49:53,120
what other researchers have to say about

2728
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:56,060
it but I can just say in my own journeys

2729
01:50:00,409 --> 01:49:56,639
in this

2730
01:50:01,939 --> 01:50:00,419
I've interviewed dozens of individuals

2731
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:01,949
men and women who've had what seemed to

2732
01:50:05,449 --> 01:50:04,110
be abduction experiences I have not hip

2733
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,459
nautically regressed them because I

2734
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:07,679
can't do that all I can do is listen

2735
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:09,209
carefully and try to keep them calm

2736
01:50:12,529 --> 01:50:10,530
while they while they tell me what they

2737
01:50:14,299 --> 01:50:12,539
remember but there's a lot of these

2738
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,309
stories out there there's something

2739
01:50:19,310 --> 01:50:16,800
happening to many many people

2740
01:50:20,509 --> 01:50:19,320
and what what disturbs me more than

2741
01:50:22,609 --> 01:50:20,519
anything else is that they go through

2742
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:22,619
their lives with this event that often

2743
01:50:25,639 --> 01:50:23,489
is traumatic

2744
01:50:27,409 --> 01:50:25,649
sometimes transformative but often it is

2745
01:50:29,029 --> 01:50:27,419
traumatic and they they feel like they

2746
01:50:31,489 --> 01:50:29,039
can't tell anyone because they'll

2747
01:50:32,779 --> 01:50:31,499
they're subject to ridicule I think that

2748
01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:32,789
there's something happening I think that

2749
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:34,169
there is an agency there's a group

2750
01:50:40,219 --> 01:50:37,530
there's someone that is indeed taking

2751
01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:40,229
people this is not all bedroom sleep

2752
01:50:44,179 --> 01:50:42,780
paralysis you know sleep paralysis is a

2753
01:50:47,029 --> 01:50:44,189
real thing but some of these abductions

2754
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:47,039
happen in people's cars and they happen

2755
01:50:51,319 --> 01:50:49,050
with waking knowledge and not all of

2756
01:50:53,989 --> 01:50:51,329
them require hypnotic regression by the

2757
01:50:56,179 --> 01:50:53,999
way to be recalled so there's enough out

2758
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:56,189
there to persuade me that this is a real

2759
01:50:59,870 --> 01:50:57,599
phenomenon and that this is somehow

2760
01:51:01,429 --> 01:50:59,880
connected with what we call UFOs not

2761
01:51:02,779 --> 01:51:01,439
that there's not a military component

2762
01:51:03,889 --> 01:51:02,789
not that there's not a black budget

2763
01:51:06,919 --> 01:51:03,899
component to this I think there is

2764
01:51:08,449 --> 01:51:06,929
there's definitely in my view there's an

2765
01:51:12,129 --> 01:51:08,459
abduction phenomenon that's happening

2766
01:51:14,209 --> 01:51:12,139
I tend to agree I I've had my own

2767
01:51:16,129 --> 01:51:14,219
up-close and personal experience when I

2768
01:51:18,259 --> 01:51:16,139
was very very young I was a six or seven

2769
01:51:19,339 --> 01:51:18,269
year old so I mean I do think that

2770
01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:19,349
there's something to it but it's

2771
01:51:24,020 --> 01:51:21,239
infinitely more complicated I think than

2772
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,030
any sort of standard youth illogical

2773
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:26,159
explanation there's it's just infinitely

2774
01:51:29,689 --> 01:51:28,110
more complicated and I don't think it's

2775
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:29,699
it's something that you know can be

2776
01:51:34,549 --> 01:51:32,249
solved by by one case or even by

2777
01:51:37,580 --> 01:51:34,559
analyzing all the cases I think each one

2778
01:51:39,290 --> 01:51:37,590
has a level of strangeness that's unique

2779
01:51:41,359 --> 01:51:39,300
to that particular person in that

2780
01:51:43,580 --> 01:51:41,369
particular case it's almost like the

2781
01:51:46,879 --> 01:51:43,590
individual is filling in the details of

2782
01:51:49,310 --> 01:51:46,889
some sort of not quite manifest event

2783
01:51:50,839 --> 01:51:49,320
it's really hard for me to describe I

2784
01:51:54,169 --> 01:51:50,849
think you're onto something here Chris I

2785
01:51:56,839 --> 01:51:54,179
I really I'm very very in line with what

2786
01:51:58,279 --> 01:51:56,849
you're saying this is highly complex one

2787
01:52:00,919 --> 01:51:58,289
of the reasons I wrote this book

2788
01:52:04,189 --> 01:52:00,929
UFOs for the 21st century mind I wanted

2789
01:52:06,500 --> 01:52:04,199
it to be the single best sophisticated

2790
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:06,510
entry point into this subject that's

2791
01:52:09,709 --> 01:52:08,610
been written I mean was five it's 500

2792
01:52:11,299 --> 01:52:09,719
pages

2793
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,309
so it's not a short book but it's it's

2794
01:52:15,279 --> 01:52:13,679
not outrageously long and it really is

2795
01:52:17,569 --> 01:52:15,289
my attempt to cover everything

2796
01:52:18,830 --> 01:52:17,579
everything that matters and one of these

2797
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:18,840
things is the fact that this is a

2798
01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:22,530
strange strange phenomenon my feeling at

2799
01:52:27,290 --> 01:52:24,150
this point is that what we encounter is

2800
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:27,300
UFOs it exists but I like to think of as

2801
01:52:31,939 --> 01:52:29,760
like at the edge or beyond the fence of

2802
01:52:33,529 --> 01:52:31,949
our reality you know we have this it's

2803
01:52:35,509 --> 01:52:33,539
like a fish in the water and then

2804
01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:35,519
someone comes into the water and then

2805
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:36,840
they leave we don't know how to we

2806
01:52:41,299 --> 01:52:38,639
wouldn't have to imagine life outside

2807
01:52:42,649 --> 01:52:41,309
the water but we would have occasional

2808
01:52:44,569 --> 01:52:42,659
encounters with something that enters

2809
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:44,579
our domain and I think that this

2810
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:46,110
intelligence is kind of like that I

2811
01:52:49,729 --> 01:52:48,090
think they come into our reality which

2812
01:52:51,979 --> 01:52:49,739
you know we perceive reality through

2813
01:52:53,779 --> 01:52:51,989
space and through time but we we do know

2814
01:52:56,509 --> 01:52:53,789
intellectually that space and time are

2815
01:52:58,969 --> 01:52:56,519
not what our common sense tell us anyway

2816
01:53:00,890 --> 01:52:58,979
it's not what Isaac Newton said exactly

2817
01:53:03,290 --> 01:53:00,900
you know as time doesn't just go and

2818
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:03,300
space doesn't just go they're connected

2819
01:53:06,109 --> 01:53:04,650
like a fabric and they're affected by

2820
01:53:08,930 --> 01:53:06,119
things like gravity and by other things

2821
01:53:10,609 --> 01:53:08,940
and and these other beings it seems to

2822
01:53:12,140 --> 01:53:10,619
me they have an ability to play games of

2823
01:53:14,270 --> 01:53:12,150
space and time in a way that we

2824
01:53:16,549 --> 01:53:14,280
ordinarily do not and so they can

2825
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:16,559
manipulate our reality and and I think

2826
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,449
we're kind of outmatched by them doesn't

2827
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:20,639
mean that we can't try to grasp what's

2828
01:53:23,779 --> 01:53:22,530
happening but and then this other thing

2829
01:53:26,899 --> 01:53:23,789
that you just said this kind of

2830
01:53:29,089 --> 01:53:26,909
individuality of the phenomenon there

2831
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:29,099
does seem to be aspects of this that are

2832
01:53:32,989 --> 01:53:31,710
highly individual that engage in what we

2833
01:53:35,149 --> 01:53:32,999
would call synchronicity and other

2834
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:35,159
strange things that you know if you have

2835
01:53:40,250 --> 01:53:38,010
a mechanical Victorian sort of worldview

2836
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:40,260
that's very materialist this doesn't

2837
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:42,690
really fit into it easily you know so

2838
01:53:46,279 --> 01:53:44,159
there's some very strange things going

2839
01:53:47,689 --> 01:53:46,289
on here and that's part of the reality

2840
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:47,699
that we're dealing well that brick that

2841
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:49,170
brings me to a question from one of our

2842
01:53:54,919 --> 01:53:52,170
listeners technomage who has been a a

2843
01:53:55,759 --> 01:53:54,929
post wit forum dr. Peric ask.com for

2844
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:55,769
almost two years

2845
01:54:00,469 --> 01:53:58,050
he doesn't post that often but he always

2846
01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,479
post good questions for our guests here

2847
01:54:03,979 --> 01:54:02,159
at the pair cast and his first question

2848
01:54:05,930 --> 01:54:03,989
is right in lines of what we were just

2849
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:05,940
talking about he wants to know what your

2850
01:54:10,219 --> 01:54:07,920
thoughts are about the absurd nature of

2851
01:54:12,290 --> 01:54:10,229
certain UFO encounters like aliens

2852
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:12,300
constantly being seen digging soil

2853
01:54:18,350 --> 01:54:15,090
samples performing primitively painful

2854
01:54:20,359 --> 01:54:18,360
medical procedures giving uh what's his

2855
01:54:21,250 --> 01:54:20,369
name Joe Symington pancakes for

2856
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:21,260
instantly

2857
01:54:26,529 --> 01:54:23,840
isn't this a problem for the et

2858
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:26,539
hypothesis and those who are convinced

2859
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:28,130
that these are beings from other planets

2860
01:54:31,989 --> 01:54:31,010
coming here it's a very good question I

2861
01:54:34,899 --> 01:54:31,999
think we've all asked ourselves

2862
01:54:37,449 --> 01:54:34,909
something like that as I said earlier in

2863
01:54:39,370 --> 01:54:37,459
this conversation that we had one of the

2864
01:54:40,989 --> 01:54:39,380
problems with what we call UFOs is that

2865
01:54:43,299 --> 01:54:40,999
no matter what hypothesis you choose

2866
01:54:45,069 --> 01:54:43,309
there are real issues with it that none

2867
01:54:47,290 --> 01:54:45,079
of the hypotheses really are a perfect

2868
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,300
fit none of them are that the yet Nazi

2869
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:49,280
UFO Theory not the u.s. black-budget

2870
01:54:54,419 --> 01:54:52,010
theory not these timetraveler theory

2871
01:54:56,830 --> 01:54:54,429
none of them none of them really work

2872
01:54:58,479 --> 01:54:56,840
well they all have just enough data to

2873
01:55:01,750 --> 01:54:58,489
support them but there's so much more

2874
01:55:03,459 --> 01:55:01,760
data to refute them it's like mutilation

2875
01:55:05,799 --> 01:55:03,469
phenomenon who's behind the mutilations

2876
01:55:07,899 --> 01:55:05,809
the debunkers you know are correct too

2877
01:55:10,419 --> 01:55:07,909
but only up to a certain point the

2878
01:55:11,739 --> 01:55:10,429
people who think it's military or some

2879
01:55:14,140 --> 01:55:11,749
sort of Health arm of the government

2880
01:55:15,969 --> 01:55:14,150
there's enough data to support that but

2881
01:55:18,489 --> 01:55:15,979
there's tons of data to refute it and

2882
01:55:20,319 --> 01:55:18,499
the same with the with the et hypothesis

2883
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:20,329
that they're gathering genetic material

2884
01:55:25,899 --> 01:55:23,209
well one of the hypotheses that at least

2885
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:25,909
I entertain is one that Jacques Vallee

2886
01:55:31,540 --> 01:55:29,090
had you know introduced many years ago I

2887
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:31,550
don't know that this is true but it

2888
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:33,170
actually would speak to that question

2889
01:55:35,919 --> 01:55:34,610
and some of these others which would be

2890
01:55:37,060 --> 01:55:35,929
that they're they're kind of messing

2891
01:55:39,939 --> 01:55:37,070
with us you know they're sort of

2892
01:55:43,290 --> 01:55:39,949
engaging in our culture in a certain way

2893
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:43,300
with a certain idea with an intention of

2894
01:55:50,290 --> 01:55:47,360
causing slow transformations of the

2895
01:55:52,750 --> 01:55:50,300
culture the mythological programming

2896
01:55:55,180 --> 01:55:52,760
yeah but but actually in a sense there

2897
01:55:56,259 --> 01:55:55,190
is a kind of logic to that I don't know

2898
01:55:57,759 --> 01:55:56,269
this is a case but if I were doing

2899
01:55:59,469 --> 01:55:57,769
counterintelligence and trying to figure

2900
01:56:01,540 --> 01:55:59,479
this out that would have to be a real

2901
01:56:03,370 --> 01:56:01,550
possibility and it makes sense to me

2902
01:56:05,259 --> 01:56:03,380
because even as I point out in my new

2903
01:56:06,969 --> 01:56:05,269
book I think there's a lot of the

2904
01:56:08,979 --> 01:56:06,979
ancient aliens arguments that just falls

2905
01:56:10,180 --> 01:56:08,989
flat on his face it doesn't hold up but

2906
01:56:12,009 --> 01:56:10,190
there's enough there are enough

2907
01:56:14,109 --> 01:56:12,019
anomalies in my view about our ancient

2908
01:56:15,729 --> 01:56:14,119
past to convince me that there's a big

2909
01:56:18,430 --> 01:56:15,739
as I call it a big hole in our ancient

2910
01:56:21,129 --> 01:56:18,440
history and that it's very possible that

2911
01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:21,139
there was something very very advanced

2912
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:23,119
interacting either our own civilization

2913
01:56:26,649 --> 01:56:24,650
or some other that was interacting with

2914
01:56:29,140 --> 01:56:26,659
us thousands of years ago we developed

2915
01:56:31,779 --> 01:56:29,150
uh you know technologies that have been

2916
01:56:33,660 --> 01:56:31,789
lost now we develop them independent of

2917
01:56:36,300 --> 01:56:33,670
any sort of outside employ entirely

2918
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:36,310
and absolutely and one of the hypotheses

2919
01:56:40,580 --> 01:56:38,080
we have to entertain for UFOs is that

2920
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:40,590
there could be an ancient breakaway

2921
01:56:45,479 --> 01:56:44,080
civilization that you know obtain some

2922
01:56:46,590 --> 01:56:45,489
kind of important secret and decided

2923
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:46,600
they were going to share with the rest

2924
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:48,880
of the poor slobs on this planet and in

2925
01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:50,770
some secret manner have kept themselves

2926
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:52,600
going with their own knowledge esoteric

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knowledge maybe this is it

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when you look at certain studies I just

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recently read Manley P halls classic

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book secret teachings of millions right

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I mean my goodness here at that in his

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and what he does is he kind of takes you

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through like all out of these esoteric

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societies and telling you what it seems

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like their belief systems were and the

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closely held guarded secret sounds like

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today closely held closely guarded

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podcast.com you did that one day man

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Chris you dropped the ball I had to take

3044
02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:04,360
over I'm thanks rich I had my mute

3045
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button on I was coffee before I helped

3046
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:10,120
yeah buddy appreciate that you and Nick

3047
02:02:15,629 --> 02:02:12,330
should get together in practice

3048
02:02:18,750 --> 02:02:15,639
Nick why Pope Redford grad friend he

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02:02:23,879 --> 02:02:18,760
constantly is ap me on the when he comes

3050
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:23,889
on love Nick Redfern he's very good at

3051
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the shadow type of laugh yeah is that

3052
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right oh my goodness but we aren't here

3053
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:30,699
to talk about laughter we're here to

3054
02:02:34,979 --> 02:02:32,800
talk about no this is very serious stuff

3055
02:02:37,379 --> 02:02:34,989
in a very serious book you know Richard

3056
02:02:38,910 --> 02:02:37,389
looking at the book you know it it kind

3057
02:02:40,860 --> 02:02:38,920
of reminds me of what I attempted to do

3058
02:02:43,340 --> 02:02:40,870
was stalking the herd it start at the

3059
02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:43,350
very beginning and end in the present

3060
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:45,520
put everything out there that you

3061
02:02:49,379 --> 02:02:47,560
possibly possibly could fit in that was

3062
02:02:52,350 --> 02:02:49,389
relevant and do it in such a way that

3063
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:52,360
it's accessible and objective and yeah

3064
02:02:55,979 --> 02:02:53,770
you've really accomplished that this is

3065
02:02:58,169 --> 02:02:55,989
really I think a major work I think it's

3066
02:03:00,240 --> 02:02:58,179
the most important you fo book of the

3067
02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:00,250
year possibly of

3068
02:03:05,730 --> 02:03:03,070
several years and my hats off I really

3069
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:05,740
want our listeners to go out and get

3070
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:09,010
this book order it study it there's

3071
02:03:13,530 --> 02:03:10,930
something in there for anyone no matter

3072
02:03:16,110 --> 02:03:13,540
what level of knowledge that you have

3073
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:16,120
about this subject this is an incredible

3074
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:17,890
reference book and my hats really off to

3075
02:03:21,630 --> 02:03:19,810
you Richard on this is an amazing work

3076
02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:21,640
you really put a lot so much grace a lot

3077
02:03:25,530 --> 02:03:23,230
of time and effort and thought into this

3078
02:03:27,210 --> 02:03:25,540
I so very much appreciate that coming

3079
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:27,220
from you I respect you and your work so

3080
02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:29,530
much I will say when I wrote this book I

3081
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:30,670
wrote it differently than every other

3082
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:32,710
book I've done in other words I actually

3083
02:03:36,510 --> 02:03:34,360
wrote this book out without even

3084
02:03:38,970 --> 02:03:36,520
thinking too much about citations I just

3085
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:38,980
wrote it I just wrote it and then I

3086
02:03:45,210 --> 02:03:43,570
realized I went back over it and found

3087
02:03:47,010 --> 02:03:45,220
everything and there's about 500 or more

3088
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:47,020
citations which is low for me actually

3089
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:49,690
but well there's enough to get people a

3090
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:51,010
very clear idea where this information

3091
02:03:54,270 --> 02:03:52,570
is coming from I just don't make it I

3092
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:54,280
only have one problem with the book you

3093
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:57,010
did not mention the over 1200 UFO

3094
02:04:01,080 --> 02:03:58,480
sighting events that occurred in the San

3095
02:04:03,450 --> 02:04:01,090
Luis Valley from 92 to 96 but I should

3096
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:03,460
have lied on that no I think you're

3097
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:05,890
absolutely right and probably I should

3098
02:04:11,250 --> 02:04:09,130
have done that you know part of it is

3099
02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:11,260
simply you know what gets what makes it

3100
02:04:14,610 --> 02:04:12,700
to the to the page and what makes it to

3101
02:04:17,310 --> 02:04:14,620
the cutting floor I wanted to keep this

3102
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:17,320
book down to 300 pages when it's nearly

3103
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:20,770
500 pages and there's still so much more

3104
02:04:24,300 --> 02:04:22,960
when I when I do the third volume of the

3105
02:04:27,390 --> 02:04:24,310
national security state series I

3106
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:27,400
absolutely intend to cover that you know

3107
02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:31,270
very very fairly in 1995 was probably

3108
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:34,990
the most important event that included

3109
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:36,880
involvement with the with NORAD in the

3110
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:40,810
military that event I think is is hugely

3111
02:04:47,070 --> 02:04:43,090
overlooked and it could be incredibly

3112
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:47,080
important and I'm sure you're right if

3113
02:04:50,730 --> 02:04:48,670
you at least cover that event I'll be

3114
02:04:52,770 --> 02:04:50,740
happy No thank you for mentioning that I

3115
02:04:55,290 --> 02:04:52,780
do appreciate it and you know honestly

3116
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:55,300
if I'd had after you finish a book like

3117
02:04:59,190 --> 02:04:56,770
this there's always things that you

3118
02:05:00,720 --> 02:04:59,200
think oh god I wish I'd included this or

3119
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:00,730
that and I know that's one of those

3120
02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:02,050
things like I probably ought oh of

3121
02:05:05,010 --> 02:05:03,310
including yeah

3122
02:05:06,990 --> 02:05:05,020
well you got time for your next volume

3123
02:05:08,910 --> 02:05:07,000
of the national security state and

3124
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:08,920
volumes I have some other questions here

3125
02:05:13,130 --> 02:05:11,530
we'd love to get into just real quick

3126
02:05:16,850 --> 02:05:13,140
this one comes from ashtray

3127
02:05:19,310 --> 02:05:16,860
it was a he's been a poster for a year

3128
02:05:20,540 --> 02:05:19,320
but he's only posted nine times so you

3129
02:05:23,330 --> 02:05:20,550
brought your bringing them out of the

3130
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:23,340
writ of the the Woodward bridge great

3131
02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:25,650
which way has the whole UFO topic

3132
02:05:29,380 --> 02:05:27,870
changed your religious belief system do

3133
02:05:31,220 --> 02:05:29,390
you still believe in some sort of God

3134
02:05:33,260 --> 02:05:31,230
that's a good question

3135
02:05:35,180 --> 02:05:33,270
you know I don't believe in the the

3136
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:35,190
desert sky God mythology I don't believe

3137
02:05:38,570 --> 02:05:36,930
in the cartoon version of I mean that's

3138
02:05:40,130 --> 02:05:38,580
really what Judaism Christianity Islam

3139
02:05:42,950 --> 02:05:40,140
really aren't in my view I look at them

3140
02:05:44,540 --> 02:05:42,960
as cartoons for what what should be true

3141
02:05:46,010 --> 02:05:44,550
spirituality sorry if I'm offending

3142
02:05:49,670 --> 02:05:46,020
anyone but look this is my opinion just

3143
02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:49,680
looking like a true Gnostic well right

3144
02:05:55,130 --> 02:05:53,910
so um so I I went through every

3145
02:05:57,950 --> 02:05:55,140
spiritually I think I've gone through

3146
02:05:58,940 --> 02:05:57,960
the whole whole journey you know I went

3147
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,950
three years or I thought I was an

3148
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:00,960
atheist and I actually I'm not an

3149
02:06:04,190 --> 02:06:02,370
atheist any longer I do believe that

3150
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:04,200
there's a kind of transcendental reality

3151
02:06:11,090 --> 02:06:06,000
I believe in other words in the survival

3152
02:06:12,740 --> 02:06:11,100
of some kind of being part of us after

3153
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:12,750
are the rest of these physical physical

3154
02:06:15,020 --> 02:06:14,490
bodies call it the soul this is good a

3155
02:06:17,210 --> 02:06:15,030
word as any

3156
02:06:19,340 --> 02:06:17,220
ancients used it I think that there's

3157
02:06:23,300 --> 02:06:19,350
something like a soul I happen to

3158
02:06:25,490 --> 02:06:23,310
believe I don't know this but I what

3159
02:06:28,730 --> 02:06:25,500
what can any of us know but I believe

3160
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:28,740
that probably the way that weak importar

3161
02:06:32,030 --> 02:06:30,330
selves in this reality might have some

3162
02:06:34,610 --> 02:06:32,040
determination on the quality of our

3163
02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:34,620
existence afterward after we shed this

3164
02:06:39,650 --> 02:06:37,380
mortal coil has the UFO phenomenon

3165
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:39,660
affected my belief system not really so

3166
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:42,210
much although through the UFO phenomenon

3167
02:06:47,090 --> 02:06:44,730
I did a long study of remote viewing and

3168
02:06:48,770 --> 02:06:47,100
it was a study of remote viewing that

3169
02:06:52,130 --> 02:06:48,780
actually did it affect my spiritual

3170
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:52,140
beliefs I will say that like um you know

3171
02:06:57,140 --> 02:06:55,110
the recognition that many remote viewers

3172
02:06:59,750 --> 02:06:57,150
are able to see things not simply across

3173
02:07:00,920 --> 02:06:59,760
space but across time there's some very

3174
02:07:01,670 --> 02:07:00,930
good examples of this another we're

3175
02:07:04,340 --> 02:07:01,680
seeing the future

3176
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:04,350
Joe mcmoneagle I've gotten to talk to

3177
02:07:08,810 --> 02:07:06,210
about this as one very good example

3178
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:08,820
there are others so at one point I asked

3179
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:11,130
myself like scientifically how is it

3180
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:12,570
that business is possible I mean what

3181
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:14,130
does it say about the fabric of reality

3182
02:07:18,860 --> 02:07:16,050
that a human being can see across space

3183
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:18,870
or time what part of us is doing that

3184
02:07:22,700 --> 02:07:20,370
what part of reality are we affecting

3185
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:22,710
we're seeing it is crazy questions but

3186
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:24,210
what I believe is that

3187
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:26,610
there's a part of us that is able to

3188
02:07:31,690 --> 02:07:28,890
transcend what we ordinarily perceive of

3189
02:07:34,670 --> 02:07:31,700
space and time and that part of us

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that's what I would I would call that

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the soul and I think that that is

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separate aspect of our existence and so

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I do have that that aspect of spiritual

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belief I would never presume that I

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would call that knowledge this is where

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I complain about Christian

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fundamentalists or Islamic fundamentals

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or any fundamentalist I get I call them

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spiritually greedy you know it's like

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what's one thing to have faith what is

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faith faith is a little bit of Hope a

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little bit of belief it's not knowledge

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if it were knowledge that's the word we

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would use faith is not knowledge so it's

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phased you have to have a little bit of

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uncertainty you have to be comfortable

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with uncertainty but there are people

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who are not comfortable with uncertainty

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they get greedy they want to know it all

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well ancient people whether the ancient

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Greeks who talked about this or the

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ancient Hebrews had talked about this

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know what God's will is there you know

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up the Greeks called it hubris certain

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create a tower to reach God and God said

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oh no you ate and dispersed them with

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different languages well that's a

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brilliant metaphor you know it's it's

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for us to understand that it is actually

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not the place of human beings to have to

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fundamentalist types III call that

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supposed you can't know so be

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but I believe or at least I think that

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there's that there's a reality that

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follows the death of my body um I can

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call that faith and I'm I don't mind

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calling it that I've always likened it

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asking the questions that you listeners

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some high-level person because you're

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getting too close to the truth I really

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know I mean I've talked to high-level

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people never in a confrontational way

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and they've never like approached me

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because they need to warn me off of

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anything I've never had that experience

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I've had I've had experiences when I

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concluded but I was being monitored I

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had experiences when I concluded that

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someone was trying to to mess with my

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research by dis informing me and I had

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that alright I think that's the case I

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even to this day I don't know for sure

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but I've never been warned I've never

3404
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felt threatened I had one in my whole

3405
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time doing this I had one very bizarre

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feeling that I might have been under

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some kind of attack and I I mind

3408
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mentioning it was back in 2005 in

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November at one of the crash retrieval

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conferences which was run by Ryan Wood

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and Bob wood it was in a hotel that was

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in hell was in Las Vegas yeah and I

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forget the name of the hotel I have to

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look it up but it was a you know tall

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hotel and was all like inside like so

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you could be elevators you could see the

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elevators going up from the inside Lobby

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so anyway I don't ordinarily get

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headaches but I I got a a ripping or

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ripping headache during much of that

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conference it was so bad

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had it after I did my lecture I was at

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my table and my head was like exploding

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I hadn't understand why so I had to

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leave the conference briefly to lie down

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I went up to my hotel room went into my

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room and I laid down for about an hour

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and after that time my headache was

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subsided mostly it's like 80% gone so

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there okay I'm gonna rejoin the

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conference and literally the moment I

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stepped out my door well met my foot

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like hit the door the headache came back

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in absolute full force and again the

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room would be like completely visible

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from even the lobby all the rooms were

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visible from the lobby in this hotel

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structure so I want every join the

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conference anyway and I was just in

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agony the whole day and I and there was

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some very odd people at that particular

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conference a lot of these UFO

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conferences you know you get a wide

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range of people you get people who are

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truly kind of off-the-wall crazy but you

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get a lot of brilliant people and you do

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get a lot of people who seem to be in

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the spook community whether military or

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military Intel or what some intelligence

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and they and especially those conference

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3452
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:10,269
always a lot of them how do you know

3453
02:18:16,169 --> 02:18:14,110
this what's the tell-tale sign that this

3454
02:18:17,820 --> 02:18:16,179
person's a spook oh well my goodness

3455
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:17,830
when you when you talk to someone when

3456
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:19,330
they they have there's a certain

3457
02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:20,649
demeanor with these people first of all

3458
02:18:25,700 --> 02:18:22,330
these are serious people they're usually

3459
02:18:29,459 --> 02:18:25,710
very well mannered very well groomed and

3460
02:18:30,959 --> 02:18:29,469
they're exactly articulate precise in

3461
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:30,969
the way they speak to you and they have

3462
02:18:35,940 --> 02:18:34,000
a depth of knowledge that it's obvious

3463
02:18:38,190 --> 02:18:35,950
this is just not a mature town when you

3464
02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:38,200
get to some of these people in beige

3465
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:43,540
beige safari suits I call me a my he's

3466
02:18:48,540 --> 02:18:46,330
the men in beige um that's interesting I

3467
02:18:51,060 --> 02:18:48,550
guess yeah maybe but they're very

3468
02:18:53,009 --> 02:18:51,070
they're very executive very intelligent

3469
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:53,019
and very knowledgeable and this is not

3470
02:18:56,910 --> 02:18:55,120
something that you just people casually

3471
02:18:58,469 --> 02:18:56,920
acquire these personalities and

3472
02:19:00,509 --> 02:18:58,479
knowledge so I think there's a lot of

3473
02:19:02,009 --> 02:19:00,519
those types and actually I remember

3474
02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:02,019
having a conversation with a friend of

3475
02:19:06,330 --> 02:19:04,030
mine the Victor V Gianni is up in Canada

3476
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:06,340
Richard mitch is a good guy he told me

3477
02:19:10,830 --> 02:19:09,250
of a friend an acquaintance I guess I

3478
02:19:12,580 --> 02:19:10,840
should say he may have been Australia

3479
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:12,590
back in the 90s

3480
02:19:20,589 --> 02:19:15,050
through his wife some casual thing this

3481
02:19:22,209 --> 02:19:20,599
guy had worked with us CIA and they were

3482
02:19:23,919 --> 02:19:22,219
having drinks and everything was casual

3483
02:19:26,490 --> 02:19:23,929
but somehow the UFO thing came up and

3484
02:19:31,089 --> 02:19:26,500
and all the guys said to Victor was oh

3485
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:31,099
yes there's always you know we always

3486
02:19:35,860 --> 02:19:34,160
keep an eye on the UFO people and he

3487
02:19:37,299 --> 02:19:35,870
basically made it clear that they would

3488
02:19:39,219 --> 02:19:37,309
go to conferences and he would attend

3489
02:19:41,259 --> 02:19:39,229
and just kind of see what's happening in

3490
02:19:42,969 --> 02:19:41,269
that whole community I think Victor was

3491
02:19:44,350 --> 02:19:42,979
telling the truth I mean I think Victor

3492
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:44,360
got that accurately I know he was

3493
02:19:48,549 --> 02:19:46,250
telling the truth well now that we're on

3494
02:19:51,730 --> 02:19:48,559
the subject this next question comes

3495
02:19:55,900 --> 02:19:51,740
from Stijl who lives up there in

3496
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,910
dingleberry New York and really claims

3497
02:20:00,880 --> 02:19:57,680
he's a lab rat at a large computer

3498
02:20:03,610 --> 02:20:00,890
company anyway he's a fairly new sign up

3499
02:20:05,770 --> 02:20:03,620
at forum dr. Peric ascom he has a number

3500
02:20:07,960 --> 02:20:05,780
of questions here and the first one is

3501
02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:07,970
what three-letter establishment do you

3502
02:20:12,460 --> 02:20:09,680
suspect is holding the most data

3503
02:20:14,350 --> 02:20:12,470
regarding the UFO phenomenon in our

3504
02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:14,360
government and then he says what other

3505
02:20:18,340 --> 02:20:16,610
country are foreign establish the

3506
02:20:20,530 --> 02:20:18,350
establishment do you suspect holds the

3507
02:20:23,290 --> 02:20:20,540
most outside of the US China or Russia

3508
02:20:25,090 --> 02:20:23,300
oh good questions well I think one

3509
02:20:27,130 --> 02:20:25,100
three-letter establishment that no one

3510
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:27,140
ever talks about that has to have a huge

3511
02:20:32,850 --> 02:20:30,610
amount of data as the NRO for sure man

3512
02:20:35,410 --> 02:20:32,860
National Reconnaissance Office which

3513
02:20:37,420 --> 02:20:35,420
officially speaking controls and

3514
02:20:41,260 --> 02:20:37,430
monitors all US spy satellites and

3515
02:20:43,960 --> 02:20:41,270
they've done so since around 1960-61 you

3516
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:43,970
know for 30 years it was a felony to

3517
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:45,770
mention the existence of the NRO in the

3518
02:20:51,550 --> 02:20:47,120
halls of congress it was actually

3519
02:20:53,740 --> 02:20:51,560
against the law the NRO was outed in the

3520
02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:53,750
early 90s and we still really have

3521
02:20:58,540 --> 02:20:55,760
almost no information about it but I

3522
02:21:00,400 --> 02:20:58,550
think the NRO without a doubt has a

3523
02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:00,410
tremendous amount of data on this

3524
02:21:06,130 --> 02:21:02,810
phenomenon the NRO has its own close

3525
02:21:07,570 --> 02:21:06,140
relationship with the NSA again there's

3526
02:21:09,070 --> 02:21:07,580
very little question in my mind that

3527
02:21:12,010 --> 02:21:09,080
there's a great amount of data that the

3528
02:21:13,690 --> 02:21:12,020
NSA is acquired on this data with CIA

3529
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:13,700
you know a lot of these three-letter

3530
02:21:15,490 --> 02:21:15,290
agencies that we that are very well

3531
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:15,500
known

3532
02:21:20,510 --> 02:21:18,250
yes CIA for sure NSA for sure NRO

3533
02:21:22,969 --> 02:21:20,520
absolutely for sure

3534
02:21:24,980 --> 02:21:22,979
and then you've got Navy I mean everyone

3535
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:24,990
has looked into this in for any amount

3536
02:21:32,330 --> 02:21:28,290
of time cut concludes that the u.s. Navy

3537
02:21:34,670 --> 02:21:32,340
is a serious player in the acquisition

3538
02:21:36,350 --> 02:21:34,680
of knowledge of what we call UFO

3539
02:21:39,469 --> 02:21:36,360
phenomena possibly more so than the Air

3540
02:21:41,420 --> 02:21:39,479
Force even yeah I think so because a lot

3541
02:21:44,270 --> 02:21:41,430
of this phenomenon is below the water is

3542
02:21:46,940 --> 02:21:44,280
in the water and I in my own personal

3543
02:21:48,890 --> 02:21:46,950
conversations it's not that I run into

3544
02:21:54,530 --> 02:21:48,900
Navy people more than air force people

3545
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:54,540
but however it works out I a lot more

3546
02:21:57,350 --> 02:21:56,010
interesting information out of Navy

3547
02:22:01,520 --> 02:21:57,360
people than I've ever gotten out of air

3548
02:22:04,190 --> 02:22:01,530
force people like by far by far you know

3549
02:22:05,930 --> 02:22:04,200
these Navy people you haven't understand

3550
02:22:07,790 --> 02:22:05,940
like someone who is very skeptical

3551
02:22:09,890 --> 02:22:07,800
thinking oh my god well how do you know

3552
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:09,900
they're just not lying to I guess part

3553
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:11,130
of what I would say is you have to be

3554
02:22:17,420 --> 02:22:14,160
there I had a conversation with one Navy

3555
02:22:19,550 --> 02:22:17,430
officers some years ago I was like six

3556
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:19,560
three rock-solid this is exactly the

3557
02:22:22,670 --> 02:22:21,210
kind of guy you'd want defending your

3558
02:22:25,730 --> 02:22:22,680
country and he's a good guy he's a Navy

3559
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:25,740
recruiter at least he wasn't I met him I

3560
02:22:29,180 --> 02:22:27,690
was having a long conversation with him

3561
02:22:31,490 --> 02:22:29,190
about an entirely different matter

3562
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:31,500
nothing to do with UFOs but then he

3563
02:22:38,480 --> 02:22:35,490
realized that I was a UFO researcher and

3564
02:22:40,250 --> 02:22:38,490
after a lot of hesitation he said well

3565
02:22:44,570 --> 02:22:40,260
I'll tell you a story and then he just

3566
02:22:46,670 --> 02:22:44,580
tells me this amazing story about what

3567
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:46,680
happened to him in 1987 aboard the USS

3568
02:22:51,230 --> 02:22:50,160
Saratoga and I mean I think he was

3569
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:51,240
absolutely credible and I think if

3570
02:22:53,690 --> 02:22:52,290
anyone were to send him with this man

3571
02:22:56,480 --> 02:22:53,700
about his story they would believe him

3572
02:22:59,420 --> 02:22:56,490
as much as I did and I get these all the

3573
02:23:01,250 --> 02:22:59,430
time from Navy people and it's not that

3574
02:23:04,219 --> 02:23:01,260
they're necessarily breaking security

3575
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:04,229
O's they're just very quietly telling

3576
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:05,850
something that they experienced that I

3577
02:23:09,740 --> 02:23:07,110
think they just had to get off their

3578
02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:09,750
chest you know so I think the Navy is

3579
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:11,430
very much involved there's a presence in

3580
02:23:18,050 --> 02:23:14,850
our oceans of I call it the presence of

3581
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:18,060
another they're not us a classic book

3582
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Ivan T Sanderson invisible residents if

3583
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you haven't read it go out and get it

3584
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along meet early great look yeah that's

3585
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a beautifully written book s Anderson

3586
02:23:30,290 --> 02:23:28,080
was such a good writer the incredible

3587
02:23:33,460 --> 02:23:30,300
claim that 50% of UFO sightings are

3588
02:23:35,439 --> 02:23:33,470
located in and around bodies of water

3589
02:23:38,170 --> 02:23:35,449
which you don't wonder don't see really

3590
02:23:40,510 --> 02:23:38,180
I mean there's a lot of water-based

3591
02:23:42,279 --> 02:23:40,520
sightings there's I mean a lot of them

3592
02:23:44,229 --> 02:23:42,289
so it's probably hind up that brings me

3593
02:23:46,529 --> 02:23:44,239
to a question from Junius he would like

3594
02:23:48,969 --> 02:23:46,539
to ask you if you think the UAP UFO

3595
02:23:50,590 --> 02:23:48,979
phenomenon or more likely to be time

3596
02:23:53,109 --> 02:23:50,600
travelers as opposed to aliens from

3597
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:53,119
other planets and I would add possibly

3598
02:23:56,349 --> 02:23:55,010
other tenants in the building are we

3599
02:23:58,210 --> 02:23:56,359
dealing with something that's hidin in

3600
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:58,220
the oceans for instance let's do that

3601
02:24:02,679 --> 02:24:00,319
answer on the other side okay we have

3602
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one more segment to offer here and again

3603
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Richard Dolan's book 500 pages of this

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3605
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as you see we can only cut the surface

3606
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here we've got a lot more to go into

3607
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that Somoza watery pine there with gene

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3702
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barricades the gold standard a

3703
02:29:03,429 --> 02:28:58,790
paranormal radio alright so the question

3704
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:03,439
asked by our listener Richard Dolan and

3705
02:29:06,130 --> 02:29:04,970
we have to move through the answers

3706
02:29:08,679 --> 02:29:06,140
pretty quickly now we're in the last

3707
02:29:10,210 --> 02:29:08,689
segment go ahead please alright so do I

3708
02:29:12,010 --> 02:29:10,220
think Time Traveller's is more likely

3709
02:29:13,030 --> 02:29:12,020
than extraterrestrials I actually don't

3710
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:13,040
think it's more likely than

3711
02:29:16,420 --> 02:29:14,090
extraterrestrials I think

3712
02:29:18,969 --> 02:29:16,430
extraterrestrials is more likely but I

3713
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:18,979
don't rule it out I think you know is

3714
02:29:24,130 --> 02:29:22,010
time travel possible I guess there are

3715
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:24,140
physicists who leave that door open I

3716
02:29:29,050 --> 02:29:25,850
would certainly not feel qualified to

3717
02:29:31,780 --> 02:29:29,060
close it if they don't there are a few

3718
02:29:33,309 --> 02:29:31,790
people who you know stridently make this

3719
02:29:35,139 --> 02:29:33,319
claim that they know that this is a

3720
02:29:38,050 --> 02:29:35,149
time-travel phenomenon I don't feel that

3721
02:29:39,300 --> 02:29:38,060
confident I think I think it's more

3722
02:29:41,410 --> 02:29:39,310
likely that they're from another planet

3723
02:29:43,929 --> 02:29:41,420
simply because look we can see ourselves

3724
02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:43,939
in the next 50 years or more

3725
02:29:49,059 --> 02:29:46,010
being able honestly to go to another

3726
02:29:51,160 --> 02:29:49,069
planet I mean we can't make it right now

3727
02:29:52,090 --> 02:29:51,170
to the nearest star but in another 50

3728
02:29:53,889 --> 02:29:52,100
years we're gonna have genetic

3729
02:29:55,389 --> 02:29:53,899
manipulation nanotech advanced

3730
02:29:57,370 --> 02:29:55,399
artificial intelligence artificial

3731
02:30:00,010 --> 02:29:57,380
intelligent ships I mean good grief

3732
02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:00,020
quantum computing we will be able I

3733
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:01,170
guarantee you

3734
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:02,250
you mentioned in your book I've been

3735
02:30:06,020 --> 02:30:04,050
rich been rich mentioned that we have

3736
02:30:08,600 --> 02:30:06,030
the technology to take e.t home so

3737
02:30:11,090 --> 02:30:08,610
that's right baby we even do have that

3738
02:30:12,880 --> 02:30:11,100
capability but but what about in the

3739
02:30:15,230 --> 02:30:12,890
building the ultra terrestrial

3740
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,240
possibility or as Mac Tony is coined the

3741
02:30:20,530 --> 02:30:17,280
term the crypto terrestrial you think

3742
02:30:23,210 --> 02:30:20,540
there's a possibility of suboceanic

3743
02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:23,220
subterranean some sort of dimensional

3744
02:30:31,940 --> 02:30:28,890
possibly living alongside us sure

3745
02:30:34,370 --> 02:30:31,950
I think it's possible you know I I don't

3746
02:30:35,719 --> 02:30:34,380
know that this is true all we're doing

3747
02:30:37,940 --> 02:30:35,729
is groping in the dark here at a

3748
02:30:39,400 --> 02:30:37,950
phenomenon that we're just we really are

3749
02:30:42,140 --> 02:30:39,410
having such a hard time understanding

3750
02:30:44,540 --> 02:30:42,150
where I'm confident is that there is a

3751
02:30:46,850 --> 02:30:44,550
phenomenon that is real that has engaged

3752
02:30:48,530 --> 02:30:46,860
our militaries that we the militaries

3753
02:30:50,300 --> 02:30:48,540
don't really know how to deal with and

3754
02:30:52,310 --> 02:30:50,310
that their only way in dealing with the

3755
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:52,320
public is by clamping that lid down as

3756
02:30:57,200 --> 02:30:54,810
tightly as they can because they feel

3757
02:30:59,450 --> 02:30:57,210
it's just too revolutionary what is the

3758
02:31:00,679 --> 02:30:59,460
side what's what are these others are

3759
02:31:03,350 --> 02:31:00,689
they extraterrestrial or are they

3760
02:31:05,780 --> 02:31:03,360
permanent residence I couldn't tell you

3761
02:31:07,310 --> 02:31:05,790
for sure I think they're probably ETS I

3762
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:07,320
think some of them have been living here

3763
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:09,570
for a long long time

3764
02:31:13,190 --> 02:31:12,000
and they may be permanent residents of

3765
02:31:14,870 --> 02:31:13,200
Earth they may have evolved here and

3766
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:14,880
just evolved on a separate path all of

3767
02:31:18,650 --> 02:31:16,170
those are possible I'm probably more

3768
02:31:20,450 --> 02:31:18,660
terrestrial than we are when people say

3769
02:31:21,980 --> 02:31:20,460
Chris you you believe in aliens is well

3770
02:31:23,660 --> 02:31:21,990
how do you know we're not if the aliens

3771
02:31:26,179 --> 02:31:23,670
and they're more terrestrial than we are

3772
02:31:27,770 --> 02:31:26,189
very really don't know Charles four

3773
02:31:31,580 --> 02:31:27,780
years ago put it well he said we're

3774
02:31:33,380 --> 02:31:31,590
property maybe they created us here's a

3775
02:31:36,200 --> 02:31:33,390
question from technomages one of our

3776
02:31:37,910 --> 02:31:36,210
posters at forum dr. Peric ascom where

3777
02:31:40,010 --> 02:31:37,920
you can post your questions for our

3778
02:31:41,660 --> 02:31:40,020
guests he wants to know Richard what are

3779
02:31:43,429 --> 02:31:41,670
your favorite two or three cases from

3780
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:43,439
the last ten years well let's say from

3781
02:31:49,880 --> 02:31:47,850
2001 let's let's last 41 I actually

3782
02:31:52,670 --> 02:31:49,890
wrote about in my book which is one

3783
02:31:55,130 --> 02:31:52,680
that's come to me and I've had extensive

3784
02:31:56,929 --> 02:31:55,140
discussion with the primary gentleman

3785
02:32:00,800 --> 02:31:56,939
involved it's a Canadian case that took

3786
02:32:02,780 --> 02:32:00,810
place in early 2008 in the northern most

3787
02:32:04,790 --> 02:32:02,790
habitation on planet Earth

3788
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:04,800
a Canadian base called CFS alert

3789
02:32:08,870 --> 02:32:07,200
Canadian Forces station alert if you go

3790
02:32:10,250 --> 02:32:08,880
to the very very tippy top of Greenland

3791
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:10,260
make a quick left you're right there

3792
02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:13,170
this is a electronic post that was

3793
02:32:17,479 --> 02:32:15,090
established in the 50s to spy on

3794
02:32:19,219 --> 02:32:17,489
on the Russians it's still there mostly

3795
02:32:20,780 --> 02:32:19,229
probably still spies on the Russians but

3796
02:32:23,450 --> 02:32:20,790
it communications nuclear subs that are

3797
02:32:26,899 --> 02:32:23,460
up there I wrote about this and I think

3798
02:32:28,700 --> 02:32:26,909
this is a true case so in January of o8

3799
02:32:31,099 --> 02:32:28,710
same month as the Stevensville Texas

3800
02:32:32,530 --> 02:32:31,109
case by the way but way up here in the

3801
02:32:35,750 --> 02:32:32,540
middle of the Arctic winter pitch-black

3802
02:32:38,569 --> 02:32:35,760
a 200 foot long object appears to have

3803
02:32:40,189 --> 02:32:38,579
gone up over the base shown an intensely

3804
02:32:41,540 --> 02:32:40,199
bright beam of light on the base for 10

3805
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:41,550
minutes and then just went right over

3806
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:44,010
the frozen Arctic Ocean gone there's

3807
02:32:47,870 --> 02:32:46,290
there's nothing in this area for

3808
02:32:50,300 --> 02:32:47,880
hundreds of miles and once you go over

3809
02:32:52,639 --> 02:32:50,310
the ocean for thousands and thousands of

3810
02:32:55,399 --> 02:32:52,649
miles is just it's just nothing there's

3811
02:32:57,019 --> 02:32:55,409
no drone technology that I that we know

3812
02:32:59,059 --> 02:32:57,029
of that could could have accomplished

3813
02:33:01,849 --> 02:32:59,069
this isn't I mean not the Russians not

3814
02:33:04,729 --> 02:33:01,859
the Chinese not the Americans not the

3815
02:33:08,090 --> 02:33:04,739
Canadians it's it's a heck of a case I

3816
02:33:11,330 --> 02:33:08,100
have more about that in my book you know

3817
02:33:13,790 --> 02:33:11,340
there's a lot of amazing cases that I've

3818
02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:13,800
that I've become aware of one one that I

3819
02:33:17,809 --> 02:33:16,170
personally investigated from 2003

3820
02:33:19,969 --> 02:33:17,819
another Canadian case I lived near

3821
02:33:22,219 --> 02:33:19,979
Canada I'm in Rochester New York right

3822
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:22,229
over the lake from Canada case from oh

3823
02:33:26,149 --> 02:33:24,510
three in Kingston New York a black

3824
02:33:27,740 --> 02:33:26,159
triangle case and I only mentioned it

3825
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:27,750
because I personally investigated this

3826
02:33:31,609 --> 02:33:29,850
in some detail I got to know the main

3827
02:33:33,319 --> 02:33:31,619
witness very very well one of the most

3828
02:33:34,929 --> 02:33:33,329
conscientious upstanding people I've

3829
02:33:38,149 --> 02:33:34,939
ever known in my life

3830
02:33:40,250 --> 02:33:38,159
I consider this woman like a sister to

3831
02:33:42,229 --> 02:33:40,260
me today and she saw a perfect

3832
02:33:44,210 --> 02:33:42,239
absolutely perfect equilateral black

3833
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:44,220
triangle with sharp edges right over her

3834
02:33:50,389 --> 02:33:47,040
car near Kingston Ontario go there's a

3835
02:33:51,769 --> 02:33:50,399
Canadian Forces Base over there and this

3836
02:33:55,179 --> 02:33:51,779
triangle went in the direction of that

3837
02:33:57,380 --> 02:33:55,189
base totally silent right over her head

3838
02:34:01,609 --> 02:33:57,390
pretty interesting case I wrote about

3839
02:34:03,080 --> 02:34:01,619
that in my book I'm a big advocate of

3840
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:03,090
the importance of the O'Hare case of

3841
02:34:08,510 --> 02:34:05,850
November oh six I think that remains a

3842
02:34:09,950 --> 02:34:08,520
very significant case historically as

3843
02:34:11,479 --> 02:34:09,960
well as intrinsically you know you've

3844
02:34:13,309 --> 02:34:11,489
got this object over one of the busiest

3845
02:34:16,010 --> 02:34:13,319
airports in the world seen by a lot of

3846
02:34:18,139 --> 02:34:16,020
United personnel and it and it takes off

3847
02:34:20,149 --> 02:34:18,149
punch a hole through the clouds that

3848
02:34:25,010 --> 02:34:20,159
cases that works on many levels

3849
02:34:27,740 --> 02:34:25,020
neon stevensville to the bushes ranch

3850
02:34:28,550 --> 02:34:27,750
there in the possible incursion of UFOs

3851
02:34:32,510 --> 02:34:28,560
over the ranch

3852
02:34:34,490 --> 02:34:32,520
sure yeah I mean this is a large craft

3853
02:34:36,170 --> 02:34:34,500
that was being chased by f16 jets but at

3854
02:34:37,850 --> 02:34:36,180
least according to witnesses Air Force

3855
02:34:41,630 --> 02:34:37,860
denied it of course of course I couldn't

3856
02:34:43,100 --> 02:34:41,640
deny it and but when it stopped over one

3857
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:43,110
of the witnesses he said it was

3858
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:44,850
incredible it was massive it blocked out

3859
02:34:48,140 --> 02:34:45,930
the sky and he could see the whole

3860
02:34:51,260 --> 02:34:48,150
underside and then according to FAA

3861
02:34:53,360 --> 02:34:51,270
radar data there was an unknown and this

3862
02:34:56,330 --> 02:34:53,370
is you can see this on YouTube and it

3863
02:34:57,620 --> 02:34:56,340
does appear upon a departure tag off in

3864
02:34:58,940 --> 02:34:57,630
the direction of the Crawford ranch and

3865
02:35:01,940 --> 02:34:58,950
then the last one of the 20th century

3866
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:01,950
that I think is very significant took

3867
02:35:07,330 --> 02:35:04,110
place just outside Washington DC just

3868
02:35:10,460 --> 02:35:07,340
after 9/11 that's the DC case of July of

3869
02:35:12,170 --> 02:35:10,470
2002 this is another one I personally

3870
02:35:15,890 --> 02:35:12,180
investigated I spoke to a number of the

3871
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:15,900
witnesses firsthand it was something

3872
02:35:19,940 --> 02:35:17,370
very significant in the skies just

3873
02:35:21,710 --> 02:35:19,950
outside restricted airspace chased by

3874
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:21,720
f-16s they could not compete with this

3875
02:35:26,390 --> 02:35:23,850
thing and it took off over the ocean was

3876
02:35:27,380 --> 02:35:26,400
just gone disappeared on radar so

3877
02:35:28,970 --> 02:35:27,390
there's a number of these very

3878
02:35:31,070 --> 02:35:28,980
interesting cases that have come out

3879
02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:31,080
they have not gone away here many more

3880
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:33,090
I'm say those are some top ones

3881
02:35:38,540 --> 02:35:35,490
well Richard we've covered a lot of the

3882
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:38,550
questions that listeners have posted the

3883
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:40,410
ones that we haven't covered we don't

3884
02:35:44,450 --> 02:35:42,000
have enough time to really get a good

3885
02:35:46,850 --> 02:35:44,460
cogent answer from you but once you give

3886
02:35:48,530 --> 02:35:46,860
us kind of an insider look at how part

3887
02:35:51,020 --> 02:35:48,540
three of the national security state

3888
02:35:52,430 --> 02:35:51,030
series is going and give us some insight

3889
02:35:53,780 --> 02:35:52,440
into possibly when that's going to be

3890
02:35:55,070 --> 02:35:53,790
finished and what are some of the

3891
02:35:57,290 --> 02:35:55,080
revelations that have come out of that

3892
02:35:58,460 --> 02:35:57,300
project already I have a lot of lot of

3893
02:36:00,500 --> 02:35:58,470
stuff that I've been working on with

3894
02:36:02,360 --> 02:36:00,510
this this is kind of anger some of my

3895
02:36:04,190 --> 02:36:02,370
readers but I honestly don't care at

3896
02:36:05,780 --> 02:36:04,200
this point there may be one other book

3897
02:36:08,030 --> 02:36:05,790
that I cranked out really quickly before

3898
02:36:09,380 --> 02:36:08,040
I actually finished the volume three of

3899
02:36:11,570 --> 02:36:09,390
the national security state series

3900
02:36:12,770 --> 02:36:11,580
people think they're gonna be upset but

3901
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:12,780
when this other book comes out they're

3902
02:36:16,730 --> 02:36:14,850
gonna be like oh my goodness what an

3903
02:36:18,500 --> 02:36:16,740
awesome book I'm gonna try to get that

3904
02:36:20,360 --> 02:36:18,510
other book out by the spring time and I

3905
02:36:22,220 --> 02:36:20,370
absolutely want to get volume three of

3906
02:36:24,020 --> 02:36:22,230
national security state series out it

3907
02:36:26,330 --> 02:36:24,030
will cover the UFO phenomenon and

3908
02:36:29,270 --> 02:36:26,340
reality from 1992 to the present day

3909
02:36:31,400 --> 02:36:29,280
it'll be about 600 pages similar to the

3910
02:36:33,230 --> 02:36:31,410
vol 2 it's going to continue the story

3911
02:36:36,020 --> 02:36:33,240
it's basically a book that will exist on

3912
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:36,030
three legs that is phenomenon itself

3913
02:36:39,470 --> 02:36:38,130
that the cases that I feel are the most

3914
02:36:41,720 --> 02:36:39,480
significant that really deserve

3915
02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:41,730
attention worldwide the

3916
02:36:48,410 --> 02:36:45,410
research that is where we have come from

3917
02:36:50,660 --> 02:36:48,420
1990's until today what you find out is

3918
02:36:53,780 --> 02:36:50,670
that ufology as a discipline has just

3919
02:36:55,220 --> 02:36:53,790
exploded in the last generation with

3920
02:36:57,740 --> 02:36:55,230
with the growth of the internet and the

3921
02:36:59,360 --> 02:36:57,750
web it's just absolutely gone into so

3922
02:36:59,780 --> 02:36:59,370
many different directions from where it

3923
02:37:02,810 --> 02:36:59,790
had been

3924
02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:02,820
and then they absolutely well it's a

3925
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:04,530
mixed bag I wouldn't say it's entirely

3926
02:37:08,150 --> 02:37:06,090
negative but it has been negative in

3927
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:08,160
some ways and then the final piece of

3928
02:37:11,690 --> 02:37:10,080
that final leg will be the politics and

3929
02:37:13,610 --> 02:37:11,700
trying to understand the nature of what

3930
02:37:16,970 --> 02:37:13,620
I would call the cover-up this is the

3931
02:37:19,730 --> 02:37:16,980
most fascinating subject that I could

3932
02:37:20,990 --> 02:37:19,740
ever have got my my hands into I don't

3933
02:37:22,610 --> 02:37:21,000
know if we'll ever really get to the

3934
02:37:24,230 --> 02:37:22,620
bottom of the phenomenon one thing I'll

3935
02:37:26,030 --> 02:37:24,240
be pointing out in this third volume I

3936
02:37:27,710 --> 02:37:26,040
mean my series is called UFOs in the

3937
02:37:29,150 --> 02:37:27,720
national security state but really this

3938
02:37:31,820 --> 02:37:29,160
third volume will almost be the

3939
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:31,830
international security state because

3940
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:34,110
this is a truly global phenomenon and a

3941
02:37:39,230 --> 02:37:37,050
global system that has come into place

3942
02:37:41,150 --> 02:37:39,240
since the end of the Cold War Richard

3943
02:37:42,591 --> 02:37:41,160
Dolan tell our listeners please where

3944
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:42,601
they can find more of the stuff you work

3945
02:37:48,290 --> 02:37:45,090
on absolutely my website is Richard

3946
02:37:49,761 --> 02:37:48,300
Dolan press com I just recently revised

3947
02:37:52,970 --> 02:37:49,771
it updated it made a nice and pretty

3948
02:37:54,110 --> 02:37:52,980
it's a nicer website to kind of navigate

3949
02:37:56,120 --> 02:37:54,120
your way through I try to keep it

3950
02:37:57,980 --> 02:37:56,130
up-to-date Richard only press calm got

3951
02:37:59,810 --> 02:37:57,990
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3952
02:38:01,250 --> 02:37:59,820
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3953
02:38:03,530 --> 02:38:01,260
of my books are all online you can just

3954
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:03,540
read them very good Chris O'Brien's book

3955
02:38:08,450 --> 02:38:06,000
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3956
02:38:11,421 --> 02:38:08,460
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3957
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3958
02:38:15,020 --> 02:38:13,080
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3959
02:38:17,330 --> 02:38:15,030
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3960
02:38:19,430 --> 02:38:17,340
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3961
02:38:22,070 --> 02:38:19,440
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3962
02:38:24,051 --> 02:38:22,080
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3970
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3971
02:38:42,531 --> 02:38:40,741
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3972
02:38:49,130 --> 02:38:42,541
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3974
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